[talk-ph] Road name suffixes again

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Personally, I prefer omitting and enforcing the removal of the "Street"
suffix, which is the default and the most common "type" of road label, when
I started mapping in OSM.

Admittedly, my reason for doing that is for aesthetic purposes: it looks
cleaner and avoids clutter in rendered maps. But yeah this is just another
"don't map for the renderer" issue.

I have started to question my behavior over the past few years and I can
now be convinced that we should switch our practice to adding "Street"
instead of omitting it.

Note that I haven't addressed the issue regarding street name signs because
I think this is a bit irrelevant. As I've said above, "Street" is the
default label and I doubt that any Filipino would say that "Maginhawa
Street" refers to a totally different road from one named just "Maginhawa".

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 7:42 AM Jherome Miguel, <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Since the discussion at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/98219661,
> I think we should review our existing convention on naming streets,
> especially those with the "Street" suffix, and and handling of street with
> official signs that omit the suffixes. Common OSM practice on street names
> is to use full names, but existing PH convention somewhat encourages
> dropping of suffixes regardless of what signs say, especially for inner
> streets, just like some other road maps in the Philippines (and even
> signs) do.
>
> Some important arguments are:
>
> - OSM is also a database and not just a mere road map (and complete data
> is important). Road maps may use common short forms of full road names for
> easy recognition, but OSM is far more than those. Maps that use OSM data
> have many choices on how to handle road names: use the full name, use
> abbreviations, or just use the bare name. By eliminating it, important info
> is lost.
> - Using bare road names looks plain weird, especially for addresses
> (unless we're one of the countries where omitting affixes on most street
> names is the norm in maps, signs, and addresses). Ads, business signs, and
> things should also be considered as sources, not just the sign at the
> street corner. Official road signs may not be consistent in how the name is
> written, and the name posted in business addresses may be far better in
> telling the name of the road in question.
> - The temptation by some mappers to abbreviate suffixes is not a
> sufficient reason to eliminate these info from road names.
>
> --TagaSanPedroAko
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