[osm-pl] Fwd: Re: [Imports] Import of addresses in Poland

[Tomasz Ganicz]

Też tak uważam. Gość ma swojego rodzaju fiksację na punkcie adresów:

http://osm.gryph.de/2012/12/1000-addresses/#more-172

Rozumiem, że mu się chciało spisywać z domów 1000 adresów - ale takich
jak on nie będzie nigdy 40k :-)  To trochę tak jakby w Wikipedii
zakazać stosowania botów do masowych edycji, które można zrobić
automatem - więc po co ludzie to mają robić... Mogą w tym czasie np.
wrysowywać pojedyncze drzewa czy ławki w parku :-)



2014-02-04 marekskleciak <marekskleciak w o2.pl>:
> Sluchajcie,
> jestem zdania, że trzeba tutaj wspomóc Zbigniewa!
>
> Działał i działa w naszym wspólnym interesie więc powiniśmy chyba dać
> odpowiedź zbiorową. Nie wiem tylko jak tego technicznie dokonać.
> Frederik jest generalnie od lat przeciwnikiem importów. Nie zgadzam się z
> nim w wielu kwestiach zaś w Polsce importy znacznie poprawiają stan mapy.
>
> Pozdrawiam wszystkich,
> Marek
>
>
> Dnia 4 lutego 2014 20:35 Frederik Ramm <frederik w remote.org> napisał(a):
>
>
> forgot to Cc talk-pl, sorry.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Imports] Import of addresses in Poland
> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:35:07 +0100
> From: Frederik Ramm <frederik w remote.org>
> To: imports w openstreetmap.org
>
> Hi,
>
> On 04.02.2014 17:40, Zbigniew Czernik wrote:
>> I think it's pointless to send information about the import of addresses
>> in each municipality as a separate post. I think it's a good idea to
>> create a thread where I will put the information about the planned
>> imports.
>
> I think we should maybe have a more fundamental discussion about these
> imports.
>
> As you probably know, OSM doesn't value data over community. Where
> imports are concerned, we usually look at whether there's a local
> community to "digest" the data that has been imported, to fix it where
> it's wrong, to update it in the future.
>
> Importing data "instead" of having a community is not something we
> normally do ("there's nobody there to map anything anyway so in order to
> make the map more useful let's at least import data").
>
> This is also the reason we prefer "community imports" where perhaps one
> person or a small group of people prepares data for import, but the
> actual import is done by people local to the area, who know the place
> and know what they're doing.
>
> What I'm seeing here is one single person importing huge amounts of data
> for one city after the next, all over Poland.
>
> Have *you* cross-checked that data? Have you even *been* to the places
> you are importing data for? Or, if that's not the case, is there a local
> community in the places you are importing data for - someone who says
> "dear Zbigniew, could you import this data for me so that I can do a
> better job of mapping in my city"?
>
> If this is not the case, then I think you should stop importing data.
> Has this been discussed in the Polish community?
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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