[talk-pr] Etiquetas ambiguas en las relaciones de ruta

[Clay Smalley]

Sorry for the late reply - this slipped my mind.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 9:02 AM JOSE L CUEVAS <jcuevas at me.com> wrote:

> Clay,
>
> 1. I personally don’t have any issues with the initiative, other than I
> like primary_urban better. Other than Victor Im not sure you will get much
> more feedback for consensus on this list.
>

Fair enough. The Puerto Rican mapping community may not be very active
right now, but it at least seems like the most experienced mappers in
Puerto Rico are generally in favor of this. So I'm satisfied with the level
of consensus we've reached.

2. The network tags (shields-puerto-rico branch) will be:
>
>         US:PR:primary (escutcheonShieldBlue)
>         US:PR:primary_urban (escutcheonShield)          (assuming this
> will be changed from US:PR:urban_primary
>         US:PR:secondary (pentagonShieldBlueYellow)
>         US:PR:tertiary (ovalShield)
>

Sounds good; I've updated the pull request with this tagging scheme.


> 3. The minimum tags required for the reference are:
>
>         network = US:PR:primary  (Network tag)
>         ref = 1   (Road number shown on shield)
>         route = road
>         type = route
>

The direction tag is not needed for the ref to show up. Just the four above
tags are sufficient.

4. As to the how do we go about adding the references:
>
> 4.1. Do you guys have a batch process to create the references, Minh
> mention that they could use actual road imagery, kind of hinting you guys
> have something?
>

Mapillary and Bing Streetside are street-level imagery sources we can use,
though coverage may not be complete on smaller roads in rural areas. Sadly,
no batch process.

If you can find a definitive public domain source for which roads are
which, that would speed this process up.

4.2. Using the road number can take care of the bulk and later follow up
> with a more detailed cleanup/fix of edge cases:
>
>         Primary roads are numbered in the 1 to 99 range.
>         Secondary roads are numbered in the 100 to 299 range
>         Tertiary roads are numbered in the 300 to 9999 range
>

I'm hesitant to add incorrect data even if most of it is correct. From a
quick glance of the lists of highways in Puerto Rico on the English [1] and
Spanish [2] Wikipedias, it looks like there are a lot of exceptions to
these numerical ranges, and these exceptions will need more attention.

Currently, the vast majority of numbered routes in Puerto Rico are missing
relations. Let's start by updating the existing ones [3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highways_in_Puerto_Rico
[2] https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Carreteras_de_Puerto_Rico
[3] https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1kmr
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