[Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal

[Claudius Henrichs]

So judging from the wiki the portugese OSM project standard for 
reference tagging is now:
"EN 329" with a space. Same goes for "A 23" and "IP 9" all seperated by 
spaces, correct?

Claudius

Am 18.01.2011 14:17, f.dos.santos at free.fr:
> Indeed it needed a clarification !
>
> Modificei o wiki primeira parte :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas
>
>> Hello,
>> yes i think i can confirm. Even if in some online maps it appears
>> diferently, the correct naming should be the "EN" separated from the number.
>>
>> In several local municipalities and in the Road institute is that the norm.
>> Sorry for discussing in portuguese :-)
>> In some cases it seems there are numbers composed with an "-" in the middle
>> like "EN 8-6". I really don't know why :-)
>> Anyone can bring a light to this?
>> Victor
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Claudius Henrichs<claudius.h at gmx.de>wrote:
>>
>>>   So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly:
>>>
>>> The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be:
>>>
>>> ref=EN 329
>>>
>>> The *incorrect* tagging would be:
>>>
>>> ref=EN329 (without space)
>>> ref=N 329
>>> ref=N329
>>> ref=329
>>>
>>> Additionally I would remove "Estradas Nacionais" or "EN329" from the
>>> name-tag. Right?
>>>
>>> So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709
>>>
>>> Currently it's tagged like this:
>>>
>>> name: Estrada Nacional 108
>>> ref: N108
>>>
>>> and I would change it to just:
>>>
>>> ref: EN 108
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P
>>>
>>> Claudius
>>>
>>> Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira:
>>>
>>> Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente:
>>> *highway=primary*. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista
>> aqui<http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens>).
>>> E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN
>>> http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens
>>> Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim.
>>> Victor
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS<
>>> f.dos.santos at free.fr>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Ok, thanks for the heads up.
>>>>> The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct:
>>>>> it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page.
>>>>> Victor
>>>>>
>>>>   Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais !
>>>> Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ?
>>>>
>>>> Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina :
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas
>>>> Não diz nada sobre o ref.
>>>> E a pagina :
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal
>>>> Uso o N e não EN.
>>>>
>>>> E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu sistema (em
>>>> frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a letra
>>>> e o numero : N 2).
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs
>>>>> <claudius.h at gmx.de>  wrote:
>>>>>          Bom dia!
>>>>>
>>>>>          sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant
>>>>>          information and question.
>>>>>          Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely
>>>>>          some increased activity from some german mappers. This is
>>>>>          because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a
>>>>>          "connection check" over the portugese OSM data. This check
>>>>>          searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel.
>>>>>          There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every
>>>>>          user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki
>>>>>          that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the
>>>>>          errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery.
>>>>>
>>>>>          I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have
>>>>>          informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this
>>>>>          campaign, but better late than never.
>>>>>
>>>>>          Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have
>>>>>          read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on
>>>>>          the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road
>>>>>          numbers starting with "IP" and "IC" that were assigned in the
>>>>>          2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older
>>>>>          estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário
>>>>>          Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for
>>>>>          Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how
>>>>>          to tag these. Shall I use "EN329" or "N329"? Same goes for the
>>>>>          estradas regionais: Should we use "ER32" or "R32"? Thanks in
>>>>>          advance for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>>          Regards,
>>>>>          Claudius