[Talk-ro] Import automatizat pentru limita localitatilor (via cultura.ro)
Stefan UNGUREANU
stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
Thu Jul 29 19:39:38 BST 2010
Salut,
Pai nici nu cred ca e vreo legatura. In CLC nu exista limite
administrative, numai o suma de poligoane cu diferite caracteristici.
Tocmai din cauza asta sugerasem mai demult ca datele de la cultura.ro sa
fie folosite ca limite administrative, iar cele de la CLC doar ca
poligoane de land cover.
Stefan.
On 29/07/2010 21:28, Cristian Draghici wrote:
> Salut
>
> Speram sa inteleg cum anume se va realiza treaba, pentru ca, dupa cum am
> spus mai jos, eu unul nu vad legatura intre CLC land cover si limite
> administrative.
>
> Mai mult, limitele din cultura.ro <http://cultura.ro> sunt destul de
> incorecte (m-am uitat la Targu Jiu de exemplu) -> ele par sa reprezinta
> limitele "de interes cultural" mai degraba decat limitele administrative
> (pe satelitar sa vad zone locuite excluse din poligonul orasului).
>
>
> Multumesc,
> Cristi
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Stefan UNGUREANU
> <stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>> wrote:
>
> Salut,
>
> Asa cum spune si numele mesajului (Import automatizat pentru limita
> localitatilor (via cultura.ro <http://cultura.ro>)), cred ca era
> vorba de a crea limitele localitatilor din datele de la 'cultura.ro
> <http://cultura.ro>' si poligoanele de landcover de la CLC.
>
> Stefan.
>
>
> On 28/07/2010 10:00, Cristian Draghici wrote:
>
> Salut
>
>
> M-am uitat un pic peste datele CLC si ori nu gasesc ce ati gasit
> voi,
> ori nu inteleg cum pot fi folosite pentru definirea limitelor
> oraselor
> de exemplu (de aici a plecat thread-ul initial).
>
> Spre exemplu, daca ma uit la Giurgiu in Urban Atlas:
> (http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/urban-atlas) CLC nu
> defineste un poligon care sa constituie limita orasului, ci un
> SET de
> poligoane (impartite functie de land use, etc). In acest set de
> poligoane e cuprins si un sat alaturat orasului (Slobozia) pentru
> simplul fapt ca si in acest sat exista o zona locuita.
>
> Ca atare, eu nu vad nici o legatura intre limitele
> administrative ale
> orasului asa cum sunt ele definite la primaria Giurgiu si datele din
> CLC, si atunci scopul initial al thread-ului (definire limite
> administrative pentru localitati) nu va fi atins.
>
> Va rog corectati-ma daca gresesc.
>
> Multumiri,
> Cristi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Stefan UNGUREANU
> <stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>> wrote:
>
> Salut tuturor.
>
> Pentru moment am luat datele si le-am prelucrat. N-am avut
> timp sa caut
> diferente, insa ceea ce pot sa spun e ca fisierul a crescut.
>
> Inainte aveam date in valoare de approx 173 Mb, acum avem
> approx 176 Mb;
> fisierul este comprimat (tar.gz); e drept ca datele reale
> sunt probabil
> cu vreo 10Mb mai mici pentru ca eu folosesc un contur al
> tarii extins cu
> 10 km (daca imi aduc bine aminte) pentru harta Garmin.
>
> Stefan.
>
> On 30/05/2010 19:18, Ciprian Talaba wrote:
> > Salutare,
> >
> > Incepand cu data de 27 mai datele CLC 2006 sunt disponibile
> in format
> > vectorial:
> >
> http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/clc-2006-vector-data-version.
> >
> > Avem pagina de wiki
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Romania_CLC_Import unde se
> discuta
> > despre solutii legate de importul acestor date iar Stefan a
> pus acest
> > import in lista globala
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue si a
> inceput sa
> > prezinte modul in care realizeaza in acest moment o harta
> compusa din
> > datele OSM + CLC:
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover_Romania_2006.
> >
> > Haideti sa tragem o concluzie in ceea ce priveste cea mai buna
> > modalitate de import si sa ne apucam de treaba. Binenteles o
> comparatie
> > cu datele OSM si eventual cu cele din CLC 2000 ar fi binevenita,
> dar din
> > ce am inteles calitatea datelor este foarte buna.
> >
> > Numai bine,
> > Ciprian
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Ciprian Talaba
> <cipriantalaba at gmail.com <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>>
> > <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>
>
> <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com
> <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> >
> > Sa readucem un pin subiectul in actualitate. Asa cum cred
> ca am
> > mentionat pe unul din subiectele legate de CLC, am trimis o
> > intrebare catre EEA pentru a afla cand vor fi disponibile
> datele
> > CLC2006 in format vectorial (Stefan a utilizat ultimele date
> > vectoriale, CLC2000). Daca CLC2006 va fi publicat pana la
> sfarsitul
> > lui aprilie atunci merita sa mai asteptam cateva saptamani
> pentru ca
> > din ce stiu noile date sunt mult mai precise. Am sa incerc sa
> fac si
> > o comparatie, sa vad ce pot face cu raster-ul.
> >
> > Binenteles intre timp putem sa discutam variantele deja
> propuse
> > pentru import sau sa ne gandim la unelte care ne pot ajuta sa
> > automatizam acest import :)
> >
> > O zi buna,
> > Ciprian
> >
> > ==============================================
> >
> > Dear Ciprian Talaba,
> > Thank you for your enquiry and your interest in CORINE data.
> > The EEA is the EU agency responsible for producing aggregated
> > information on the state and trends of the environment in
> Europe.
> > For more information on the activities of the EEA, please
> see the
> > following websites:
> > _www.eea.europa.eu_ <http://www.eea.europa.eu/>
> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/help/eea-help-centre/faqs_
> > New CLC 2006 is expected to be finalised during April.
> Version 13 of
> > CLC2006 will include vector data of the countries that
> have been
> > finalised. This will be published and made available on
> the EEA
> > website by the end of April. For more see:
> > _http://etc-lusi.eionet.europa.eu/CLC2006/_
> > You can download the raster data for CLC2006 as well as new
> versions
> > of CLC1990 and CLC2000 version 12 at:
> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/datasets_
> > For further information about the CLC2006 data from the
> missing
> > countries, you may find it relevant to contact the
> responsible
> > national authorities. For this purpose, I suggest that you
> utilise
> > the contact information for the NRC for landcover for the
> countries
> > of your interest. This information is available at:
> >
>
> _http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_ <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_>
> <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_
> <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_>>
>
> >
> <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1
> <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1>
> <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1
> <http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1>>>
> > General information
> > From the EEA website, we have CORINE landcover data which is
> > available free of charge. The current data we have
> available for
> > landcover can be found at the following website:
> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/datasets_
> > To be provided with an overview of EEA land use data and
> reports,
> > you can consult the EEA theme section at:
> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse_
> > The CLC viewer may also be interesting for you at (here you
> can also
> > download tiles specific for the area you are interested in):
> > _http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/clc/eeaclc.asp_
> > The EEA EIONET GIS website includes guides on geographic
> information
> > from the EEA and also a link to free open source GIS
> software.
> > Please have a look at this information here:
> > _http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gis_
> > Hopefully, this information may be helpful to you.
> > Kind regards,
> > Jesse Goodman | Communications | *European Environment Agency
> > *Kongens Nytorv 6 - 1050 Copenhagen K – Denmark
> > Tel.: +45 33 36 71 85 +45 33 36 71 85 | E-mail:
> > _jesse.goodman at eea.europa.eu_
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