[Talk-ro] Import automatizat pentru limita localitatilor (via cultura.ro)
Janos Rusiczki
janos.rusiczki at gmail.com
Thu Jul 29 21:52:47 BST 2010
Chiar acu vreo saptamana sau doua am deshumat codul care l-am folosit pentru
import.
Oare ar trebui sa continui? Macar, asa cum a fost, dar a fost un progres. :)
2010/7/29 Stefan UNGUREANU <stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
> Salut,
>
> Pai nici nu cred ca e vreo legatura. In CLC nu exista limite
> administrative, numai o suma de poligoane cu diferite caracteristici.
>
> Tocmai din cauza asta sugerasem mai demult ca datele de la cultura.ro sa
> fie folosite ca limite administrative, iar cele de la CLC doar ca poligoane
> de land cover.
>
> Stefan.
>
>
> On 29/07/2010 21:28, Cristian Draghici wrote:
>
>> Salut
>>
>> Speram sa inteleg cum anume se va realiza treaba, pentru ca, dupa cum am
>> spus mai jos, eu unul nu vad legatura intre CLC land cover si limite
>> administrative.
>>
>> Mai mult, limitele din cultura.ro <http://cultura.ro> sunt destul de
>>
>> incorecte (m-am uitat la Targu Jiu de exemplu) -> ele par sa reprezinta
>> limitele "de interes cultural" mai degraba decat limitele administrative
>> (pe satelitar sa vad zone locuite excluse din poligonul orasului).
>>
>>
>> Multumesc,
>> Cristi
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Stefan UNGUREANU
>> <stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>> wrote:
>>
>> Salut,
>>
>> Asa cum spune si numele mesajului (Import automatizat pentru limita
>> localitatilor (via cultura.ro <http://cultura.ro>)), cred ca era
>>
>> vorba de a crea limitele localitatilor din datele de la 'cultura.ro
>> <http://cultura.ro>' si poligoanele de landcover de la CLC.
>>
>>
>> Stefan.
>>
>>
>> On 28/07/2010 10:00, Cristian Draghici wrote:
>>
>> Salut
>>
>>
>> M-am uitat un pic peste datele CLC si ori nu gasesc ce ati gasit
>> voi,
>> ori nu inteleg cum pot fi folosite pentru definirea limitelor
>> oraselor
>> de exemplu (de aici a plecat thread-ul initial).
>>
>> Spre exemplu, daca ma uit la Giurgiu in Urban Atlas:
>> (http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/urban-atlas) CLC nu
>> defineste un poligon care sa constituie limita orasului, ci un
>> SET de
>> poligoane (impartite functie de land use, etc). In acest set de
>> poligoane e cuprins si un sat alaturat orasului (Slobozia) pentru
>> simplul fapt ca si in acest sat exista o zona locuita.
>>
>> Ca atare, eu nu vad nici o legatura intre limitele
>> administrative ale
>> orasului asa cum sunt ele definite la primaria Giurgiu si datele
>> din
>> CLC, si atunci scopul initial al thread-ului (definire limite
>> administrative pentru localitati) nu va fi atins.
>>
>> Va rog corectati-ma daca gresesc.
>>
>> Multumiri,
>> Cristi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Stefan UNGUREANU
>> <stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>> wrote:
>>
>> Salut tuturor.
>>
>> Pentru moment am luat datele si le-am prelucrat. N-am avut
>> timp sa caut
>> diferente, insa ceea ce pot sa spun e ca fisierul a crescut.
>>
>> Inainte aveam date in valoare de approx 173 Mb, acum avem
>> approx 176 Mb;
>> fisierul este comprimat (tar.gz); e drept ca datele reale
>> sunt probabil
>> cu vreo 10Mb mai mici pentru ca eu folosesc un contur al
>> tarii extins cu
>> 10 km (daca imi aduc bine aminte) pentru harta Garmin.
>>
>> Stefan.
>>
>> On 30/05/2010 19:18, Ciprian Talaba wrote:
>> > Salutare,
>> >
>> > Incepand cu data de 27 mai datele CLC 2006 sunt disponibile
>> in format
>> > vectorial:
>> >
>>
>> http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/clc-2006-vector-data-version.
>> >
>> > Avem pagina de wiki
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Romania_CLC_Import unde se
>> discuta
>> > despre solutii legate de importul acestor date iar Stefan a
>> pus acest
>> > import in lista globala
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue si a
>> inceput sa
>> > prezinte modul in care realizeaza in acest moment o harta
>> compusa din
>> > datele OSM + CLC:
>> >
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover_Romania_2006.
>> >
>> > Haideti sa tragem o concluzie in ceea ce priveste cea mai buna
>> > modalitate de import si sa ne apucam de treaba. Binenteles o
>> comparatie
>> > cu datele OSM si eventual cu cele din CLC 2000 ar fi binevenita,
>> dar din
>> > ce am inteles calitatea datelor este foarte buna.
>> >
>> > Numai bine,
>> > Ciprian
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Ciprian Talaba
>> <cipriantalaba at gmail.com <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>>
>> > <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com
>> >
>>
>> <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cipriantalaba at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sa readucem un pin subiectul in actualitate. Asa cum cred
>> ca am
>> > mentionat pe unul din subiectele legate de CLC, am trimis o
>> > intrebare catre EEA pentru a afla cand vor fi disponibile
>> datele
>> > CLC2006 in format vectorial (Stefan a utilizat ultimele date
>> > vectoriale, CLC2000). Daca CLC2006 va fi publicat pana la
>> sfarsitul
>> > lui aprilie atunci merita sa mai asteptam cateva saptamani
>> pentru ca
>> > din ce stiu noile date sunt mult mai precise. Am sa incerc
>> sa
>> fac si
>> > o comparatie, sa vad ce pot face cu raster-ul.
>> >
>> > Binenteles intre timp putem sa discutam variantele deja
>> propuse
>> > pentru import sau sa ne gandim la unelte care ne pot ajuta
>> sa
>> > automatizam acest import :)
>> >
>> > O zi buna,
>> > Ciprian
>> >
>> > ==============================================
>> >
>> > Dear Ciprian Talaba,
>> > Thank you for your enquiry and your interest in CORINE data.
>> > The EEA is the EU agency responsible for producing
>> aggregated
>> > information on the state and trends of the environment in
>> Europe.
>> > For more information on the activities of the EEA, please
>> see the
>> > following websites:
>> > _www.eea.europa.eu_ <http://www.eea.europa.eu/>
>> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/help/eea-help-centre/faqs_
>> > New CLC 2006 is expected to be finalised during April.
>> Version 13 of
>> > CLC2006 will include vector data of the countries that
>> have been
>> > finalised. This will be published and made available on
>> the EEA
>> > website by the end of April. For more see:
>> > _http://etc-lusi.eionet.europa.eu/CLC2006/_
>> > You can download the raster data for CLC2006 as well as new
>> versions
>> > of CLC1990 and CLC2000 version 12 at:
>> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/datasets_
>> > For further information about the CLC2006 data from the
>> missing
>> > countries, you may find it relevant to contact the
>> responsible
>> > national authorities. For this purpose, I suggest that you
>> utilise
>> > the contact information for the NRC for landcover for the
>> countries
>> > of your interest. This information is available at:
>> >
>>
>> _
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_<
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_
>> >
>> <
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_
>> <
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1_
>> >>
>>
>>
>> >
>> <
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1
>> <
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1
>> >
>> <
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1
>> <
>> http://eea.eionet.europa.eu/Public/irc/eionet-circle/Home/central_dir_admin?fn=roles&v=eionet-nrc-landcover-mc&rd=1&af=0&ud=1&od=1
>> >>>
>> > General information
>> > From the EEA website, we have CORINE landcover data which
>> is
>> > available free of charge. The current data we have
>> available for
>> > landcover can be found at the following website:
>> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/datasets_
>> > To be provided with an overview of EEA land use data and
>> reports,
>> > you can consult the EEA theme section at:
>> > _http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse_
>> > The CLC viewer may also be interesting for you at (here you
>> can also
>> > download tiles specific for the area you are interested in):
>> > _http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/clc/eeaclc.asp_
>> > The EEA EIONET GIS website includes guides on geographic
>> information
>> > from the EEA and also a link to free open source GIS
>> software.
>> > Please have a look at this information here:
>> > _http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gis_
>> > Hopefully, this information may be helpful to you.
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Jesse Goodman | Communications | *European Environment
>> Agency
>> > *Kongens Nytorv 6 - 1050 Copenhagen K – Denmark
>> > Tel.: +45 33 36 71 85 +45 33 36 71 85 | E-mail:
>> > _jesse.goodman at eea.europa.eu_
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