[OpenStreetMap Serbia] Copyright law in Serbia - "official data" = public domain?

[Marko Djordjevic]

'magic shift' would not be problem, official belgrade map (i posted link few
monts ago) is totaly screwed up. angles of important streets are prretty
bad.
interestingly enough, comercial ones are pretty good :).
i even know that map of belgrade that our army uses is does not have all the
streets in it. hell, they missed my whole neighberhood ;)

osm is pretty good source of good information for us. and i'm afraid to
pollute it with random gouverment data.
On Jul 5, 2011 11:38 PM, "Thomas" <toba0211 at yahoo.de> wrote:
>>what is also known is that state maps are (intentionaly) not very accurate
> I know, we have a "magic shift" in http://suboticagis.rs/ data and I have
learnt that this has been made intentionally. For Subotica GIS we have
> the approval to use the data. The "magic shift" is everywhere the same.
> So when using JOSM and have one fixed point like an intersection with
> many GPS traces it is easy to correct the "magic shift". The fix point
> in Subotica is in the city centre, just download the area around Trg
> Slobode and you will see it.
>
>
>>we are in constant arguing with removing copyright signs from
> gouverment sites and documents. it is hard and goes slowly. even more
> problems
>
>>are with maps, people (and officials) do not percive them as public goods.
> me too. We got approvals from Subotica and Senta and now asking Vrsac
(just send out today - Thanks Milos for correcting it)
> We made a special presentation, specifically for Vrsac. If you want to
look
> http://www.4shared.com/document/t_9vwMMB/vrsac_300dpi.html
>
> But that's not the point. The RGA is a "state body" and the question is,
> what is "official material". They can't be a "state body" without
> producing any "official material"
>
> Anyway, it
> might be the same as anywhere else. First get approvals for data usage
> on a local level. Over the time it is going higher. As far as I know
> only in the USA, government geodata are public domain
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Thomas <toba0211 at yahoo.de>
> An: Marko Djordjevic <marko.homoludens at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: 23:31 Dienstag, 5.Juli 2011
> Betreff: Re: [OpenStreetMap Serbia] Copyright law in Serbia - "official
data" = public domain?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>what is also known is that state maps are (intentionaly) not very accurate
> I know, we have a "magic shift" in http://suboticagis.rs/ data and I have
learnt that this has been made intentionally. For Subotica GIS we have the
approval to use the data. The "magic shift" is everywhere the same. So when
using JOSM and have one fixed point like an intersection with many GPS
traces it is easy to correct the "magic shift". The fix point in Subotica is
in the city centre, just download the area around Trg Slobode and you will
see it.
>
>
>>we are in constant arguing with removing copyright signs from gouverment
sites and documents. it is hard and goes slowly. even more problems
>
>>are with maps, people (and officials) do not percive them as public goods.
> me too. We got approvals from Subotica and Senta and now asking Vrsac
(just send out today - Thanks Milos for correcting it)
> We made a special presentation, specifically for Vrsac. If you want to
look
> http://www.4shared.com/document/t_9vwMMB/vrsac_300dpi.html
>
> But that's not the point. The RGA is a "state body" and the question is,
what is "official material". They can't be a "state body" without producing
any "official material"
>
> Anyway, it might be the same as anywhere else. First get approvals for
data usage on a local level. Over the time it is going higher. As far as I
know only in the USA, government geodata are public domain
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2011 10:54 PM, "Thomas" <toba0211 at yahoo.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am suprised to reads this below and I am wondering if geodata could be
qualify as "official material".
>>
>> Article 6
>> (1) The protection of copyright
>> shall not apply to general ideas, procedures and methods of
>> operations or mathematical concepts
>> as such, as well as concepts, principles and
>> instructions included in a work
>> of authorship.
>> (2) The following shall not
>> be deemed works of authorship:
>> 1) Laws, decrees and other regulations;
>> 2) Official materials of
>> state bodies and bodies performing public functions;
>> 3) Official translations of
>> regulations and official materials of state bodies and
>> bodies performing public functions;
>> 4) Submissions and other documents
>> presented in the administrative or court
>> proceedings.
>>
>> I got it from here
>> http://www.zis.gov.rs/en/pdf_ap/copyright_law.pdf
>>
>> which is a website of the Republic of Serbia - Intellectual Property
Office
>>
>>
>> http://www.zis.gov.rs/en/home/zakoni_i_propisi.html
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Thomas
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