[Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK
martianfreeloader
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Pet Nov 4 20:00:46 UTC 2022
Thanks!
On 04/11/2022 16:47, Igor Brejc wrote:
> Reported him/her, adding a couple of most egregious edits/comments. It
> takes only a couple of minutes.
>
> Kind regards,
> Igor
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 11:28 PM martianfreeloader
> <martianfreeloader na posteo.net <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net>> wrote:
>
> Anyone who can spare a half hour, please report 4KK as soon as possible!
>
> As the account is not only insulting people but actively destroying the
> map, it seems that time is of the essence.
>
> Apparently, the account also engages in edit wars:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/342087384/history
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/342087384/history>
>
> I have little capacity for OSM at the moment, sorry; otherwise I'd
> do it
> myself.
>
> Thanks to Damjan Gerl for bringing this up and to everyone who
> contributed to the discussion so far!
> m
>
>
>
> On 03/11/2022 19:16, pitastrudl na gmail.com
> <mailto:pitastrudl na gmail.com> wrote:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Report_user
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Report_user>
> >
> > We can report to data, “ат”openstreetmap.org
> <http://openstreetmap.org> for vandalism and report
> > the user in a separate section. We should take all the below
> evidence
> > and forward it to the mentioned email. *
> > *
> >
> > On 03/11/2022 19:11, Igor Brejc wrote:
> >> What's the procedure here? How do we report this?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 17:59 martianfreeloader
> >> <martianfreeloader na posteo.net
> <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Another inappropriate changeset comment from just yesterday:
> >>
> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/11/2022 17:17, Igor Brejc wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Even if nothing else, he should be reported for that insulting
> >> comment
> >> > on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>
> >> > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>>, this isn't
> >> just
> >> > vandalism, but pure abusive behavior.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Igor
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM martianfreeloader
> >> > <martianfreeloader na posteo.net
> <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net>
> >> <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net
> <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I think the account 4KK should be reported for vandalism.
> >> >
> >> > TLDR:
> >> > - 4KK destroys the map.
> >> > - When confronted with their behaviour, they either don't
> >> reply at all
> >> > or in an insulting way.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Long version:
> >> >
> >> > History of 4KK:
> >> > - The account was created in 2017.
> >> > - Strong mapping activity only started in Feb 2022
> >> >
> >> > A list of the changesets that have been discussed by other
> >> users:
> >> >
> https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
> <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480>
> >> >
> >>
> <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480 <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480>>
> >> >
> >> > Comments made by other mappers to 4KK's changesets:
> >> > - 11 changesets of 4KK are discussed by other users (since
> >> April 2022)
> >> > - All 11 changesets have been critized by other mappers as
> >> seriously
> >> > and
> >> > clearly wrong. (with mixed degrees politeness, but nothing
> >> off the
> >> > spectrum of normal OSM demeanor)
> >> >
> >> > 4KK's reaction:
> >> > - To 9 of these comments, 4KK did not reply at all.
> >> > - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied in a polite but
> >> nonconstructive way:
> >> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625>
> >> > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625>>
> >> > - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied with an insult and nothing
> >> substantial:
> >> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>
> >> > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>>
> >> > (I think that this incident alone would already justify
> >> deletion of the
> >> > account)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I did not check the actual mapping content of these
> >> changesets, so I
> >> > can't tell whether all the other mappers were always right
> >> with their
> >> > criticism. But given that 4KK has been repeatedly drawn
> >> criticism by
> >> > various users, I assume they are right.
> >> >
> >> > Personally, I had one instance myself where I discovered
> >> that 4KK
> >> > mapped
> >> > a completely fictional motorway (in fact most credits
> go to
> >> > scabiosa_trenta), but I didn't make this public at the
> time
> >> because I
> >> > didn't see the broader picture.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > m
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 26/10/2022 23:50, Miha Pavšič via Talk-si wrote:
> >> > > Živjo,
> >> > >
> >> > > ja, že prej je to počel (recimo 9 mesecev nazaj).
> Sam sem
> >> najprej
> >> > opazil relacijo "Razvojna os 3A Ljubljana-Kočevje”,
> kjer je
> >> vrisal
> >> > “proposed” cesto od razcepa Malence naprej, kot vir pa
> navedel
> >> > novico iz leta 2015. Gre samo za neko staro idejo, ki
> se je
> >> takrat
> >> > pojavila, ampak je vsaj na začetnem delu nerealistična
> in se
> >> o njej
> >> > sploh ne govori več. Bila je idejna zasnova, sploh ne
> nekaj
> >> > načrtovanega, in kot taka zadeva po mojem nima kaj
> iskati v OSM.
> >> > Kako pa bi izgledalo, če bi vsak risal neke idejne
> zasnove?
> >> > >
> >> > > Skratka, changeset sem pokomentiral (letoss septembra),
> >> > komentarja z njegove strani ni bilo, pa tudi na moje
> sporočilo
> >> > direktno njemu ni odgovoril.
> >> > >
> >> > > Lep pozdrav,
> >> > > Miha
> >> > >
> >> > >> On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:58, Damjan Gerl
> <damjan na damjan.net <mailto:damjan na damjan.net>
> >> > <mailto:damjan na damjan.net <mailto:damjan na damjan.net>>>
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Prosim napiši kakšno opombo na changeset, tako da
> bo tam
> >> "javno"
> >> > odgovoril (če bo), da bomo vsaj videli kaj/kako
> odgovori. In
> >> lahko
> >> > dobi tudi več odgovorov drugih osm-erjev.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Potem pa se lahko ukrepa in vpraša, da ga iz
> osm-boarda
> >> opomnijo
> >> > ali začasno blokirajo, če je potrebno.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> LP,
> >> > >> Damjan
> >> > >>
> >> > >> From "Blaž Lorger" blaz.lorger na krs.net
> <mailto:blaz.lorger na krs.net>
> >> <mailto:blaz.lorger na krs.net <mailto:blaz.lorger na krs.net>>
> >> > >> To talk-si na openstreetmap.org
> <mailto:talk-si na openstreetmap.org>
> >> <mailto:talk-si na openstreetmap.org
> <mailto:talk-si na openstreetmap.org>>
> >> > >> Cc Date Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:35:56 +0200
> >> > >> Subject [Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Mogoče ste že opazili da je v zadnjih dneh
> uporabnik 4KK
> >> > (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK>
> >> > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK>>) naredil več
> >> sprememb na
> >> > področju Slovenije.
> >> > >> Kakšna je pozitivna, so pa tudi neustrezne.
> >> > >> Zgleda se je koncentriral na ceste pri tem pa je
> >> spremenil tudi
> >> > precej relacij. Zaradi površnega dela so vsaj nekatere
> izmed teh
> >> > relacij zdaj nepravilne. Kot na primer ta turn restriction
> >> >
> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history>
> >> >
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history>>).
> >> Zdaj je
> >> > legalno narediti oster zavoj in se vrniti v krožišče.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Na moj poziv naj popravi take napake je jasno
> odgovoril
> >> da tega
> >> > ne namerava storiti.
> >> > >> Predlagam da se lotite popravljanja.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Pozdrav,
> >> > >> Blaž
> >> > >>
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