[Talk-transit] pay_scale_area

Frankie Roberto frankie at frankieroberto.com
Sat Aug 15 20:57:25 BST 2009

Dave F wrote:

> First off a couple of queries about transit talk.
> Is T-T purely email client based or is there a web page listing the posts?

There's a web archive here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-transit/ (this is linked to in
the footer of each of the posts)

> I receive a digest of previous posts & can't see a way to reply
> individually to specific posts, where I get the Re:.... in the subject box.

Yeah, this is one of the downsides of receiving the e-mails in digest mode -
you have to manually edit the subject lines. Personally, I prefer to receive
the e-mails singularly, and then GMail does a good job of threading them.

You can change your settings here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit (use the box at the
very bottom of the page. It's not very intuitive)

The area in question is Bath & the specific problem I'm referring to is:
> http://osm.org/go/eukj3FJ_

Thanks for the link, I've added it to the bug report:

> My initial response would be to agree with Chris M. & query whether it
> should be included in the main database. It does seem to get in the way a
> bit. However, being a newbie, I'm willing to hear arguments for it.

I'm not sure about it either. Long-term, it might be better to incorporate
the information on the bus stop nodes themselves (pay_scale_area=XXX
perhaps). However, given that'd it'd take a while to copy this information
over (and it'd be harder to keep it up to date), perhaps we're best off just
living with the boundary for the moment...

> I think it's only a matter of time before I come across a POI that proudly
> proclaims - "This is the spot where Sandra Hutchinson first let me stick my
> hand up her jumper" :-)

Heh. Sounds a bit like the geo information which is captured in the Open
Plaques project (http://www.openplaques.org/) which I run...

BTW, a "namespaced tag" is simply a tag where the predicate (or tag name) is
a string containing a colon (eg "addr:housenumber".  I don't think the
database, or API, treat these any differently from other tags, however the
namespace (the bit of the string before the colon) helps to categorise the
type of tag for humans...

Take care,

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