[Talk-transit] NaPTAN and the new PT tagging schema

Thomas Wood grand.edgemaster at gmail.com
Fri Jun 26 16:21:32 BST 2009

2009/6/24 Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com>:
> On 24 Jun 2009, at 18:20, Thomas Wood wrote:
>> 2009/6/24 Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com>:
>>> Can I suggest that we treat this import and any final tagging as a
>>> separate
>>> issue on separate timeline from the NaPTAN import just so long as no
>>> important information in the NaPTAN DB is lost in the process.
>> Can you clarify what you meant by this?
>> Is it essentially that we don't care about the new tagging schema and
>> get on with the import?

> Yes. I would suggest that to avoid trying to agree a new tagging arrangement
> in a hurry prior to the import and keep the two projects separate. Firstly
> we import the rest of NaPTAN as agreed in the original discussion, and then
> secondly we agree a harmonised tagging arrangement of some sort and convert
> all the data to this new format (including the NaPTAN import).
> btw, did you mean this to be off-list? Feel free to copy the thread to the
> list if it was a mistake.
> Regards,
> Peter

Ok, then to get on with the import, we need to review the errors we
made with the Birmingham trail, and to get their views on the data
review process - was it a good idea to import things without the
highway=bus_stop tag, to get people to add them themselves?

I think the one other outstanding issue is how we should represent the
CUS stop types, at present in the 'active' tagging mode, they'll
appear as fully-fledged highway=bus_stop nodes, like every other bus
stop type, but with the addition of  naptan:BusStopType=CUS, as (a
rather obscure) indicator to the fact they may not exist.

And then finally, we need to think about how we roll this out, county
at a time is the most obvious step, I think we order the import based
on requests on the transit list, followed by requests on talk-gb, with
a target date to import the rest by.

And on the technical front, I'm going to have to make sure that the
import tools I'm using are 0.6-capable.

I'm copying this over to the west-mids list so we can get their responses.

Thomas Wood

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