[Talk-us-massachusetts] US6 on the Cape and road type

Greg Troxel gdt at lexort.com
Sun Aug 27 14:22:37 UTC 2017


Lars Ahlzen <lars at ahlzen.com> writes:

> On 8/26/2017 9:07 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> So, I would like to retag US6 to primary from the rotary to the southern
>> of the two notes I put in.  Anyone local or who has driven on it is
>> welcome to tell me I shouldn't and why.

It sounds then like you think I am correct on the lower section.

>> if you are in favor of moving the part between the two notes to trunk,
>> let me know.  I haven't driven that recently, and am reluctant to change
>> it without encouragement from others.
>
> I've driven it many times. It's a tough call.
>
> Looking at the wiki, I'd say neither trunk nor primary fits
> perfectly. On one hand, it certainly feels like a very different type
> of road than for example 6A on the inner cape, having wide shoulders,
> many high speed entry/exit lanes, some grade separated intersections
> etc. On the other hand I'm not sure "Limited access highway with
> occasional grade level intersections, or major intercity highway"
> [from the wiki] fits much better.

Sounds like we agree about this (between my notes section) being a
difficult edge case, and the issue is about degree of limited access and
frequency of at-grade intersections.

> I wish we would have a set of objective, unambiguous criteria for
> determining road classifications in the US.

For trunk, I think it needs to be divided, with minor amounts of stuff
on the side (a driveway or business every quarter mile is ok, more not),
reasonably high speed (45 mph min, 50 mph preferred), and at-grade
intersections no more often than once per mile.  But while that seems
consistent with the rough consensus, that's my notion in detail.

As long as everything tagged trunk is at least iffy, I'm happy.   It's
only things that really aren't that bother me enough to write :-)

> Since that's not the case I'm fine with either.

I'll tend to leave it, since I think more people in OSM lean to
overtagging in iffy cases, and the part north of my northern note is
even more trunky.
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