[Talk-us-massachusetts] Talk-us-massachusetts Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5

Fri Jul 13 12:29:04 UTC 2018

Greetings!
It was me who started the topic on importing MA addresses on the forum.
Originally from Belarus, I'm currently residing in Malden, MA (so, might be
considered somewhat local:)).
I've contacted MassGIS about the possibility to import address points from
their data to OSM and received their permission (as I mentioned in the
thread on the forum).
Best, Yury

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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:54:58 -0400
> From: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>
> To: "Alan & Ruth Bragg" <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
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> Can you give us a brief summary, like who is proposing this, if they are
> local, and if they are knoww on the list?  I thought that the talk-us@
> email group was mandatory for US imports.
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> Also, massgis's licensing seems to be perhaps changing, to something
> ccish instead of PD, but I suspect they don't really mean to exclude OSM
> use.  Perhaps that's changed again and I'm out of date.
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:56:57 -0400
> From: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>
> To: "Alan & Ruth Bragg" <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
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> So I see this is just someone asking, not a real proposal.
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> It might be just as well for someone who uses forums to point them to
> this list, and to caution them that imports are hard and this one is
> going to be particularly hard...
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:03:58 -0400
> From: Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com>
> To: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>,  OSM Massachusetts
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> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
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> Hi Greg,
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> https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding
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> It looks like MassGIS clarified the licensing situation. It is cc-by.
>
> https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/
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> OSM policy on cc-by v4 is that we should ask explicit permission to import
> it.
>
> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/
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> Jason
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Can you give us a brief summary, like who is proposing this, if they are
> > local, and if they are knoww on the list?  I thought that the talk-us@
> > email group was mandatory for US imports.
> >
> > Also, massgis's licensing seems to be perhaps changing, to something
> > ccish instead of PD, but I suspect they don't really mean to exclude OSM
> > use.  Perhaps that's changed again and I'm out of date.
> >
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:07:16 -0400
> From: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>
> To: Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
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> Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com> writes:
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> >
> https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding
> >
> > It looks like MassGIS clarified the licensing situation. It is cc-by.
> >
> > https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/
> >
> > OSM policy on cc-by v4 is that we should ask explicit permission to
> import
> > it.
> >
> > https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/
>
> Thanks - that's great news.   It used to be cc-by-sa.   They don't seem
> to point to a version, so I guess that means the latest.  Certainly
> asking if it's ok is easy enough, should we get to the point where we
> are serious.
>
> Long-term, I would love to see us import the addresses.  That's a big
> job, in terms of avoiding existing data and conflation to our buildings
> (but they've done some of that) and I may eventually have time to help.
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