[Talk-us-massachusetts] Talk-us-massachusetts Digest, Vol 22, Issue 24
Yury Yatsynovich
yury.yatsynovich at gmail.com
Wed Jul 25 03:22:20 UTC 2018
> 1) Adjacent parcels that are both numbered the same in Mass GIS, but
really one has an "A" or "REAR" suffix. For example, 28 and 28A.
-- If two MassGIS points have the same location, housenumber and street,
but one has UNIT, while the other doesn't then they are not merged.
> 2) "Half" addresses. Not too uncommon in the older neighborhoods around
Boston. I've been entering these as, e.g., "10-1/2" -- not sure if
there's a better syntax.
-- If "10-1/2" is the way a housenumber is written in MassGIS then it will
be imported in addr:housenumber=10-1/2. Yet, if MassGIS has housenumber=10
and unit=1/2, then these will be two tags -- addr:housenumber=10 and
addr:unit=1/2
As for separators for multiple values, indeed, though, comma is more
popular (as I can also see from addresses in Malden), it is recommended to
adhere to the default semicolon which I will do.
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> 1. MassGIS address import -- on duplicates and weird
> housenumbers (Yury Yatsynovich)
> 2. Re: MassGIS address import -- on duplicates and weird
> housenumbers (Alan & Ruth Bragg)
> 3. Re: MassGIS address import -- on duplicates and weird
> housenumbers (John Goodman)
> 4. Re: MassGIS address import -- on duplicates and weird
> housenumbers (Alan & Ruth Bragg)
> 5. Re: MassGIS address import -- on duplicates and weird
> housenumbers (John Goodman)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 12:48:59 -0400
> From: Yury Yatsynovich <yury.yatsynovich at gmail.com>
> To: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [Talk-us-massachusetts] MassGIS address import -- on
> duplicates and weird housenumbers
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> For the points with units I've noticed that in most cases they are
> duplicates (have exactly the same location), so to avoid the error in JOSM
> that "duplicates are created" and to avoid mess on the map I would merge
> such points (same location, street and housenumber but different units),
> combining the info on units into addr:unit="A,B,C,..." etc. When/if
> somebody wants to allocate units to entrances it will take one a bit of
> extra effort -- instead of dragging ready points to the right entrance one
> would need to create such points from addr:unit="A,B,C,..." (a relatively
> small extra step which can be implemented with a script).
>
> Another issue that I've noticed -- some addresses have housenumbers equal
> to 0, yet, some of them have proper unit numbers. What shall be done with
> such addresses? Importing addr:housenumber=0 as in MassGIS? Or are there
> other OSM-compatible sources to double-check addresses?
>
> Currently I'm done with matching addresses to buildings and merging
> duplicate nodes (same location, street and housenumber but different
> units). I also used a python module titlecase + some patterns that I've
> noticed in names of streets in MA from OSM (so, there should be no problems
> with either "McDonald" or "YMCA Street"). Folder with matched and unmatched
> addresses split by counties is here: https://mega.nz/#F!Wg9RQJzL
> !MIyYl9kq5AivIm5SOxGAow
> Python script that I used: https://mega.nz/#!Ct9lCLDJ
> !bm7SpzTnuaYTdiNlJw4CGB3AQ3WjY6jxeC1cQzDRx4o
>
> In the next couple of days I'll try to write a script that would create
> changesets based on OSMID's of buildings (for adding to them matched
> addresses).
> --
> Yury Yatsynovich
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> From: "Alan & Ruth Bragg" <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
> To: Yury Yatsynovich <yury.yatsynovich at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] MassGIS address import -- on
> duplicates and weird housenumbers
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> Yuri,
> Great work, I agree and am fine with rolling up stacked unit numbers into a
> list addr:unit=A;B;C
> I've looked at a couple pages on syntax and think the proper delimiter
> might be a semi-colon. Maybe someone knows better.
> I don't think the quotes are necessary.
>
> There are already 35 buildings in MA with an address of 0. It's certainly
> suspicious. I'm in favor of not importing zeros. Import the addr:street etc
> but not the addr:housenumber=0
> There are two locations with the 0 address in Bedford.
>
> My town gis map shows a building at 32 YD Road that's identified as 0 YD
> Road in the massgis point data file.
>
> The other location with an address of 0 is in a stack of 110 nodes
> containing 77 different addresses next to a road on Hanscom AFB. The
> POINT_TYPE is BMP. BMP is noted in the massgis definitions as "oddly
> distributed buildings or unusually configured property boundaries ....we
> will consider shifting these points to more intuitive and suitable
> locations"
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:49 PM Yury Yatsynovich <
> yury.yatsynovich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For the points with units I've noticed that in most cases they are
> > duplicates (have exactly the same location), so to avoid the error in
> JOSM
> > that "duplicates are created" and to avoid mess on the map I would merge
> > such points (same location, street and housenumber but different units),
> > combining the info on units into addr:unit="A,B,C,..." etc. When/if
> > somebody wants to allocate units to entrances it will take one a bit of
> > extra effort -- instead of dragging ready points to the right entrance
> one
> > would need to create such points from addr:unit="A,B,C,..." (a
> relatively
> > small extra step which can be implemented with a script).
> >
> > Another issue that I've noticed -- some addresses have housenumbers equal
> > to 0, yet, some of them have proper unit numbers. What shall be done with
> > such addresses? Importing addr:housenumber=0 as in MassGIS? Or are there
> > other OSM-compatible sources to double-check addresses?
> >
> > Currently I'm done with matching addresses to buildings and merging
> > duplicate nodes (same location, street and housenumber but different
> > units). I also used a python module titlecase + some patterns that I've
> > noticed in names of streets in MA from OSM (so, there should be no
> problems
> > with either "McDonald" or "YMCA Street"). Folder with matched and
> unmatched
> > addresses split by counties is here: https://mega.nz/#F!Wg9RQJzL
> > !MIyYl9kq5AivIm5SOxGAow
> > Python script that I used: https://mega.nz/#!Ct9lCLDJ
> > !bm7SpzTnuaYTdiNlJw4CGB3AQ3WjY6jxeC1cQzDRx4o
> >
> > In the next couple of days I'll try to write a script that would create
> > changesets based on OSMID's of buildings (for adding to them matched
> > addresses).
> > --
> > Yury Yatsynovich
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:59:38 -0400
> From: John Goodman <jg1 at qlam.com>
> To: talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] MassGIS address import -- on
> duplicates and weird housenumbers
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> On 2018.07.24 17:37, Alan & Ruth Bragg wrote:
> > There are already 35 buildings in MA with an address of 0. It's
> > certainly suspicious.
>
> But not necessarily incorrect. I've mapped several addresses of zero,
> confirmed by multiple sources (town assessor's data, USPS ZIP code by
> address web page, view of the house number itself).
>
> For example: 0 Carmen Avenue, Stoneham, MA 02180 (42.482943,
> -71.077575), a house put up (probably after a property division)
> forty-odd years after addresses 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. Rather than renumber
> everyone, they were assigned address zero.
>
> John Goodman
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:33:49 -0400
> From: "Alan & Ruth Bragg" <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
> To: jg1 at qlam.com
> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] MassGIS address import -- on
> duplicates and weird housenumbers
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> Thanks John, I retract my comment about not importing addr:housenumber=0.
> Actually, I've seen some crazy stuff in Billerica in an old cottage
> community where two new houses were inserted between single digit numbers
> with values in the 50's.
> Alan
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:59 PM John Goodman <jg1 at qlam.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2018.07.24 17:37, Alan & Ruth Bragg wrote:
> > > There are already 35 buildings in MA with an address of 0. It's
> > > certainly suspicious.
> >
> > But not necessarily incorrect. I've mapped several addresses of zero,
> > confirmed by multiple sources (town assessor's data, USPS ZIP code by
> > address web page, view of the house number itself).
> >
> > For example: 0 Carmen Avenue, Stoneham, MA 02180 (42.482943,
> > -71.077575), a house put up (probably after a property division)
> > forty-odd years after addresses 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. Rather than renumber
> > everyone, they were assigned address zero.
> >
> > John Goodman
> >
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:47:25 -0400
> From: John Goodman <jg1 at qlam.com>
> To: Alan & Ruth Bragg <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] MassGIS address import -- on
> duplicates and weird housenumbers
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> Indeed. Two additional special situations that import scripts should be
> aware of:
>
> 1) Adjacent parcels that are both numbered the same in Mass GIS, but
> really one has an "A" or "REAR" suffix. For example, 28 and 28A.
>
> 2) "Half" addresses. Not too uncommon in the older neighborhoods around
> Boston. I've been entering these as, e.g., "10-1/2" -- not sure if
> there's a better syntax.
>
> John Goodman
>
>
>
> On 2018.07.24 18:33, Alan & Ruth Bragg wrote:
> > Thanks John, I retract my comment about not importing
> > addr:housenumber=0. Actually, I've seen some crazy stuff in Billerica in
> > an old cottage community where two new houses were inserted between
> > single digit numbers with values in the 50's.
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:59 PM John Goodman <jg1 at qlam.com
> > <mailto:jg1 at qlam.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 2018.07.24 17:37, Alan & Ruth Bragg wrote:
> > > There are already 35 buildings in MA with an address of 0. It's
> > > certainly suspicious.
> >
> > But not necessarily incorrect. I've mapped several addresses of zero,
> > confirmed by multiple sources (town assessor's data, USPS ZIP code by
> > address web page, view of the house number itself).
> >
> > For example: 0 Carmen Avenue, Stoneham, MA 02180 (42.482943,
> > -71.077575), a house put up (probably after a property division)
> > forty-odd years after addresses 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. Rather than renumber
> > everyone, they were assigned address zero.
> >
> > John Goodman
> >
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