[Talk-us-massachusetts] Massachusetts Turnpike: highway=toll_gantry instead of barrier=toll_booth

Yury Yatsynovich yury.yatsynovich at gmail.com
Tue Nov 6 15:23:33 UTC 2018


As far as I know, highway=toll_gantry are not rendered on osm.org now and
I'm not sure about osmand. But it looks like this tag (including a
corresponding icon for it) has been just recently approved (
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Toll_Gantry), so, I
think, we may see them rendered in the future.
Couple of toll_gantries (near Lee and West Stockbridge) are at the same
location where toll_booths used to be, but, true, in general locations do
not coincide.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:

> Yury Yatsynovich <yury.yatsynovich at gmail.com> writes:
>
> [I'm not paying much attention to OSM these weeks and hope to be back
> soon.]
>
> > As I'm driving twice a week along Mass Turnpike I've recorded and added
> > locations of highway=toll_gantry along the highway.
>
> Cool - do they render on osm.org or osmand?
>
> > Yet, overpass-turbo shows that there are still barrier=toll_booth at
> > some exits from Mass Turnpike.
>
> Yes, and I get warnings from osmand about where toll booths used to be.
>
> > Can anybody confirm if all toll_booths have been replaced with
> > toll_gantry, including those on exits, and, hence, if
> > barrier=toll_booth can be removed/replaced with highway=toll_gantry?
>
> The collection of toll booths has been replaced with a collection of
> gantries.  However...
>
> Definitely it is not the case that individual tool booths have been
> replaced with gantries *at the same locations*.
>
> What happened is that
>
>   all toll booths have been removed (said the state, and I have driven
>   in a lot of such places, and have not seen even one, so I believe them)
>
>   There are a lot of new gantries.  But, they are in different places
>   from where the toll booths used to be, generally in the middle a
>   stretch of the main road between exits.
>
> So removing barrier=toll_booth at the exits is totally ok.  But you
> can't changed them to gantry - there aren't gantries there.
>
> In all the gantries you added, did you find an old toll booth node at
> even a single location?  If so, where?
>
> Another thing is that the exits often but not always have had road
> realignment.  In particular 128/90, ramp from 90W to 128 is in a
> different place than before.   But fine to drop the toll booth and
> eventually somebody will fix other things - incremental progress is of
> course the OSM way.
>
>

-- 
Yury Yatsynovich
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