[Talk-us] Bicycle facility tags (Class III "bike route")

[Alan McConchie]

An update on our discussion about cycle tagging:  the OSM cycle map  
stylesheet has been updated, and it looks beautiful.

See: http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/08/17/hill-colouring-on-the-cycle-map/

Now you can tell the difference between streets that are part of a  
cycle route tagged with lcn=yes (rendered with highlighting), those  
that have designated cycle lanes tagged with cycleway=lane (rendered  
with blue outlines), and those that have both.  When you're zoomed  
out, however, only the cycle routes are shown, not any streets that  
have cycle lanes but aren't tagged with lcn.


Alan


On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Alan McConchie wrote:

> For these "class III" bike routes, I have just been tagging them  
> with lcn=yes and lcn_ref=## if the route has a name or number.  Even  
> if they're not part of any cycle network, they're at least  
> officially condoned by the local authorities (if they've got green  
> bike signs) so I figure that is sufficient for the lcn tag.  The lcn  
> tag alone will also get rendered on the OSM cycle map.
>
> And regarding getting cycle map tiles rendered, just ask the  
> maintainer Andy Allan (CC'ed in this email) and he will start  
> rendering any area you are tagging.  Check out Washington D.C. or  
> the major Canadian cities (Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver) for good  
> North American examples that are already getting rendered.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Alan Brown wrote:
>
>> I've been working on something similar for San Jose ... I've been  
>> working on the seperate cycle tracks, but I'll eventually get to  
>> the roads.
>>
>> Are there any server set up there rendering North American (or, at  
>> least, Bay Area) tiles similar to the OSM cycle map?
>>
>> http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/
>>
>> I'd also be curious - does mapnik have the ability to render  
>> partially transparent PNGS, to use as an overlay?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: will law <williumbillium at gmail.com>
>> To: Karl Newman <siliconfiend at gmail.com>
>> Cc: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:08:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Bicycle facility tags (Class III "bike route")
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Karl Newman  
>> <siliconfiend at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, mike.onines at juno.com <mike.onines at juno.com 
>> > wrote:
>> Class I is the separated bike path, with a physical separation  
>> between the bicycle path and vehicle traffic, or on a route which  
>> other vehicle traffic doesn't follwo.  This one is easy, you trace  
>> in the path, and make it highway=cycleway; cycleway=track.  It's  
>> just the same as drawing in separate roads for divided roads.
>>
>> Class II is the bike lane with its own lane markings, but it is  
>> immediately adjacent the vehicle lanes.  This also seems to be  
>> pretty clear: just add a cycleway=lane tag to the road it is part  
>> of, right?
>>
>> Class III is a "shared use" facility with the cars, it just has the  
>> green "bicycle route" signs occasionally.  Hopefully it has a wide  
>> outside lane, but not always.  How do you put this one in?  do you  
>> add a bicycle=designated tag to the road, or what?
>>
>> I have been classifying Class I & II cycleways in San Francisco  
>> using the above method.  I haven't got on to the Class III type but  
>> bicycle=designated seems appropriate to me.
>>
>> I think your suggestions line up with how I would tag it, too. I'm  
>> curious where you heard about the Class I, II, III designations,  
>> though. I'm a California native and occasional bike rider and I've  
>> never heard of these.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> Here's the detail on their classification in California.  I'm not  
>> sure if the same is used elsewhere in the US though:
>>
>> http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=shc&group=00001-01000&file=890-894.2
>>
>> Will
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