[Talk-us] Importing campsite in Oregon

[Karl Newman]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Tom Brown <tomgmail at thecap.org> wrote:

> I'm going to be camping in Oregon in a week. OSM didn't seem to include any
> campsites in that area so I downloaded positions from the USFS and a private
> operator and imported them using ogr2ogr, gpsbabel and josm.
>
> The USFS data is public domain. I updated
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Potential_Datasources#US_Forest_Service
>
> For the data I got from the google map at
> http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm I emailed hoodoo and got this reply:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <Umbrella96 at aol.com>
> Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: importing campsite locations into Open Street Map
>
> Our map comes from Google and I doubt that you need my permission, but if
> you do, you have it.
> Hope things go well,
> Chuck
>
>
> Do I need to ping this list for future tiny imports like this? Sorry for
> not asking first. I wanted to make sure I could do the import before asking
> and before I knew it the data was uploaded. ;-)
>
>
> http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/osm/osm-paths-gm.php?kml=http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/osm/cache/bm9kZVt0b3VyaXNtPWNhbXBfc2l0ZV1bYmJveD0tMTIzLDQzLC0xMjIsNDVd.kmz<http://toolserver.org/%7Ekolossos/osm/osm-paths-gm.php?kml=http://tools.wikimedia.de/%7Ekolossos/osm/cache/bm9kZVt0b3VyaXNtPWNhbXBfc2l0ZV1bYmJveD0tMTIzLDQzLC0xMjIsNDVd.kmz>
> http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.67149&lon=-122.4316&zoom=17&layers=0B0FTFT
>
> If there is a problem look for nodes with tag source_ref=
> http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm or source_ref=
> http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/data-library/gis/umpqua/documents/rec_site_pt.zip
>

You need to be very careful about this to make sure the data you grabbed
isn't tainted. The USFS public domain stuff should be okay, but if any of
the actual campsite locations or data came from Google, then it should
probably be removed, because OSM does not have permission to use information
derived from Google maps. That's why OSM can't use geonames.org data,
either.

Karl
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