[Talk-us] Importing campsite in Oregon

[Tom Brown]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 08:07 -0700, Tom Brown wrote:
> > I'm going to be camping in Oregon in a week. OSM didn't seem to
> > include any campsites in that area so I downloaded positions from the
> > USFS and a private operator and imported them using ogr2ogr, gpsbabel
> > and josm.
> >
> > The USFS data is public domain. I updated
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Potential_Datasources#US_Forest_Service
>
> Good find, Tom.
>
> > For the data I got from the google map at
> > http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm I emailed hoodoo and got this
> > reply:
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: <Umbrella96 at aol.com>
> > Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: importing campsite locations into Open Street Map
> >
> > Our map comes from Google and I doubt that you need my permission, but
> > if you do, you have it.
> > Hope things go well,
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > Do I need to ping this list for future tiny imports like this? Sorry
> > for not asking first. I wanted to make sure I could do the import
> > before asking and before I knew it the data was uploaded. ;-)
>
> I suggest that you remove the hoodoo uploads from the OSM database for
> now.  I have to guess, because you didn't include your email to Chuck,
> but his reply doesn't sound like, "I collected the data on personal
> trips and authorize you to re-licence it for OSM".  In fact, the only
> things he says is this, "Our map comes from Google..."  While he doesn't
> distinguish between the underlying map which is probably to what he
> refers, and the campsite data which is probably what you uploaded, his
> email does not sound to me like the permission that we require.
>
>
Good point regarding how he made his made. I'll ask him to clearify how he
generated the lat,lng for his map. I suspect he used Google's geocoding +
manual correction using Google map tiles and satellite images, which isn't
kosher. I think this answers my question about asking before uploading :-/

Now, to remove...
curl -g '
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[source_ref=http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]<http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node%5Bsource_ref%3Dhttp://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm%5D%5Bbbox=-124,42,-121,46%5D>
'
returns a 500 error.

Getting a single node works...
curl -g '
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[name=Secret][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]
'
<?xml version='1.0' standalone='no'?>
<?xml version='1.0' standalone='no'?>
<osm version='0.5' generator='osmxapi: OSM Extended API'
xmlns:osmxapi='http://www.informationfreeway.org/osmxapi/0.5'
osmxapi:uri='/api/0.5/node[name=Secret][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]'
osmxapi:planetDate='200808251732' osmxapi:copyright='2008 OpenStreetMap
contributors' osmxapi:instance='zappy2'>
  <node id='290956783' lat='43.540833' lon='-122.449493' user='Tom Brown'
osmxapi:users='Tom Brown' timestamp='2008-08-25T14:39:20Z'>
    <tag k='name' v='Secret'/>
    <tag k='source_ref' v='http://www.hoodoo.com
/oregon_home.htm'/>
    <tag k='tourism' v='camp_site'/>
  </node>
</osm>

but I can't get requests by user to work. [user=Tom Brown] seems to just
search for user=Tom and user=Tom+Brown finds nothing. Instead I ran
curl -g '
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[tourism=camp_site][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]'
> campsites.osm
loaded the osm in josm, did a search to select the hoodoo source_ref data,
deleted and uploaded. Sweet!
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