[Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports
Katie Filbert
filbertk at gmail.com
Thu Aug 5 20:21:10 BST 2010
Bad imports are bad for the osm. High quality data carefully imported
is helpful. If such high quality data is available for us that is as
good or better than what we can do ourselves, then it's fine not to
reinvent the wheel. Where it's lower quality data than what we can do
ourselves, then let's not use it.
The way that CANVEC imports are happening is not bad... someone is
mass converting the data to osm / josm format and posting the files.
The CANVEC data is split into tiles.
Then local mappers are to take local tiles (or areas they know) and
import them, of course checking in josm for already existing features
and sorting them out.
There is a google doc spreadsheet (not ideal, some nicer tool for this
would be good but spreadsheet still works) that people can mark areas
they are working on
The difference with NHD is that we are leaving conversion to osm
format for the local mapper / importer. Since OSM US has server
space, maybe that's good use of it to host converted data ready for
import.
Leaving imports to local mappers is good. They are best able to
assess the quality of the data for that area an care about quality of
their local map data. It also leaves "low hanging fruit" for them.
Some areas without local mappers may take longer to "finish". That is
okay.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 5, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Edgars II
> <neroute2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think the NHD "import" is a good example of a well-intentioned
> importer
> > (me) gone wrong. I had initially planned to import the whole darn
> thing in
> > one swoop, but various technical and life challenges came up
> before I could
> > get it going. While I was working on those issues, people started
> importing
> > it themselves (sometimes marking so on the wiki, sometimes not).
> Now that
> > there are some areas imported, the import of the whole dataset
> becomes
> > infinitely harder because we have to match existing data with new
> OSM-ified
> > data.
>
> But how is this any different from importing it into an area where
> people have already mapped some lakes from aerials?
>
>
> It isn't any different. I had made the (bad) decision at the time to
> import over any existing data because in the several hundred places
> I spot-checked, NHD was vastly superior in resolution (and probably
> quality).
>
> If we wanted to support imports as a community, a tool like [0]
> should be the only way of letting imports in to OSM.
>
> [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Import_Database#French_Corine_Import_as_Template
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