[Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

[Nathan Edgars II]

Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote:
>The road that now bears all the "Olive" names was originally Plank Rd, the major road through St Louis County when it was rural. The main road went through several name changes (Plank Rd, Olive Rd, Olive St, Olive Street Rd, Olive Blvd). But, it also was realigned, creating orphaned segments of road with business on them. So, depending on when the section of road was orphaned, it picked up different names. All the orphaned segments became "Road" for their type. There is no more Plank Rd (or orphaned Plank Rd segments). But, going in order, orphaned segments became Old Olive Rd, Old Olive Street Rd, Old Olive St Rd (to differentiate that it was orphaned off Olive Street Rd instead of Olive St), and the currently alignment is Olive Blvd (but the next set of orphans should be Old Olive Boulevard Rd).

I'm still confused. Why do you say it's wrong to call the one off
Creve Coeur Mill Road "Old Olive Street Road"? (By the way, what do
the street signs say? Looks like "Olive Spur":
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.683027,-90.488221&spn=0,0.008234&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.682966,-90.488107&panoid=Retgfa_YfogoQb1_cwXbpg&cbp=12,26.81,,0,-6.61
- if so, that's what OSM should show. And on Olive Boulevard west of
Lindbergh, one of the traffic light-mounted signs says "Old Olive
Street Rd", the other "Old Olive St Rd":
http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&cbll=38.673196,-90.413365&panoid=qgVz1VhqBHZcd1RLK6n-ag&cbp=12,59.7,,0,4.47&ie=UTF8&ll=38.673194,-90.413243&spn=0,0.008234&t=h&z=18
- so the "on the ground" rule doesn't jibe with your suggestion to
spell out "Street" here but abbreviate it "St" to the west.)