[Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities

Toby Murray toby.murray at gmail.com
Thu Feb 24 16:01:09 GMT 2011


Seems like out here in Kansas/Nebraska a lot of cities are a member of
some "tri-city" region but I think it is almost always made up by the
local weather man who just wants a quick way to refer to "this area
here" while pointing at his magic green screen. It is nothing I would
want to see on a map.

For example I have often seen Kearney, Hastings and Grand Island
called "the tri-cities" by local TV stations.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.821&lon=-98.641&zoom=9&layers=M

I think they may have a hockey team that is kind of a shared interest
between the cities but other than that I don't think there is much
interaction between them and I wouldn't see any need to enter this
information into OSM.

Toby


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:40 AM,  <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> Another example is the Tri-Cities area in northeast Tennessee (Bristol, Kingsport, and Johnson City).  Certain facilities, such as the Tri-Cities Airport, are shared.  Road signs refer to both the Tri-Cities area and the individual cities.  Since Bristol extends across the state line, administratively it is two cities, namely Bristol, Tennessee and Bristol, Virginia.
>
> -------Original Email-------
> Subject :Re: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities
> From  :mailto:jumbanho at gmail.com
> Date  :Thu Feb 24 08:19:55 America/Chicago 2011
>
>
> Officially, there are the Census Metropolitan Statistical Areas, which are
> roughly equivalent to many of the colloquially used metro areas.  These are
> not administrative regions,  although some may coincide with some
> administrative regions.  I do think it would be valuable to somehow tag these
> areas.
>
> James
>
> On Thursday 24 February 2011 08:58:02 McGuire, Matthew wrote:
>> Without knowing the area, I can only speculate that "Tri-Cities" is a
>> locally common name for the entire metro, but assuming it is, I like the
>> way it looks on Mapnik, so it seems like a case of tagging for the
>> renderer. How about "place=metro"?
>>
>> More could be done with metro areas. For example, OSM Mapnik renders the
>> Saint Paul label at a 'higher' level than Minneapolis. Is there some way
>> to identify Minneapolis as the largest city of the metro area and Saint
>> Paul as the Capitol of the State of Minnesota? I don't see anything in the
>> Map Features tags that would allow this. Locally, the entire metro area is
>> frequently known as "The Twin Cities", and together Minneapolis and Saint
>> Paul are a primate city.
>>
>> I don't know of a way to represent (data-wise) the metro areas as one
>> single place. The result is, I'm now looking at a map with labels for
>> Trenton, Wilmington, Newark, Huntington NY, and Stamford CT but not New
>> York City and Philadelphia.  A place=metro tag and relations would allow
>> that - if the renderer so chose.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:neroute2 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:07 PM
>> To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools; OpenStreetMap talk-us list
>> Subject: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/876536239
>> There's no city named Tri-Cities; this is the name of the metropolitan
>> area that comprises Pasco, Kennewick, and Richland. I assume there's no
>> defensible reason to keep it tagged as such, but what should be done
>> about it?
>>
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