[Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities
Brad Neuhauser
brad.neuhauser at gmail.com
Thu Feb 24 16:08:46 GMT 2011
I think some are legit. In the case of the Twin Cities, the area isn't just
an "urban agglomeration", it's major cities that are very tightly
interconnected, socially, economically, and governmentally, in addition to
geographically (and historically). When talking about the region, residents
may use "Twin Cities" fairly interchangably with Minneapolis and St Paul.
Another example is the Quad Cities in Illinois/Iowa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_Cities
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_Cities>Brad
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Toby Murray <toby.murray at gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems like out here in Kansas/Nebraska a lot of cities are a member of
> some "tri-city" region but I think it is almost always made up by the
> local weather man who just wants a quick way to refer to "this area
> here" while pointing at his magic green screen. It is nothing I would
> want to see on a map.
>
> For example I have often seen Kearney, Hastings and Grand Island
> called "the tri-cities" by local TV stations.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.821&lon=-98.641&zoom=9&layers=M
>
> I think they may have a hockey team that is kind of a shared interest
> between the cities but other than that I don't think there is much
> interaction between them and I wouldn't see any need to enter this
> information into OSM.
>
> Toby
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:40 AM, <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> > Another example is the Tri-Cities area in northeast Tennessee (Bristol,
> Kingsport, and Johnson City). Certain facilities, such as the Tri-Cities
> Airport, are shared. Road signs refer to both the Tri-Cities area and the
> individual cities. Since Bristol extends across the state line,
> administratively it is two cities, namely Bristol, Tennessee and Bristol,
> Virginia.
> >
> > -------Original Email-------
> > Subject :Re: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities
> > From :mailto:jumbanho at gmail.com
> > Date :Thu Feb 24 08:19:55 America/Chicago 2011
> >
> >
> > Officially, there are the Census Metropolitan Statistical Areas, which
> are
> > roughly equivalent to many of the colloquially used metro areas. These
> are
> > not administrative regions, although some may coincide with some
> > administrative regions. I do think it would be valuable to somehow tag
> these
> > areas.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Thursday 24 February 2011 08:58:02 McGuire, Matthew wrote:
> >> Without knowing the area, I can only speculate that "Tri-Cities" is a
> >> locally common name for the entire metro, but assuming it is, I like the
> >> way it looks on Mapnik, so it seems like a case of tagging for the
> >> renderer. How about "place=metro"?
> >>
> >> More could be done with metro areas. For example, OSM Mapnik renders the
> >> Saint Paul label at a 'higher' level than Minneapolis. Is there some way
> >> to identify Minneapolis as the largest city of the metro area and Saint
> >> Paul as the Capitol of the State of Minnesota? I don't see anything in
> the
> >> Map Features tags that would allow this. Locally, the entire metro area
> is
> >> frequently known as "The Twin Cities", and together Minneapolis and
> Saint
> >> Paul are a primate city.
> >>
> >> I don't know of a way to represent (data-wise) the metro areas as one
> >> single place. The result is, I'm now looking at a map with labels for
> >> Trenton, Wilmington, Newark, Huntington NY, and Stamford CT but not New
> >> York City and Philadelphia. A place=metro tag and relations would allow
> >> that - if the renderer so chose.
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:neroute2 at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:07 PM
> >> To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools; OpenStreetMap talk-us
> list
> >> Subject: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities
> >>
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/876536239
> >> There's no city named Tri-Cities; this is the name of the metropolitan
> >> area that comprises Pasco, Kennewick, and Richland. I assume there's no
> >> defensible reason to keep it tagged as such, but what should be done
> >> about it?
> >>
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