[Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

[Martijn van Exel]

How do you think the Chapter should do that? Organize a working group?
An (online) event? A vote of some kind?

Martijn

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us> wrote:
> Yes, OSMF US shouldn't mandate a certain tagging scheme, but they
> could certainly help to facilitate a consensus among the community.
>
> Peter
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
>> I believe that the core tasks of the US Chapter should be 1) to
>> support and help grow the community, and 2) engage with existing and
>> potential professional users to stimulate awareness and adoption.
>> Defining the map itself should not be among them, this is and should
>> always be a community effort, even though it is sometimes a cumbersome
>> process. If you're saying that the Chapter could do something to
>> support reaching a consensus or define the issue more clearly, such as
>> facilitating a working group or a wiki clean-up, I could not agree
>> more. But I don't see the Chapter going in and defining a definitive
>> (is there even such a thing?) tagging scheme for roads. That would
>> have the Chapter claim a mandate that it was never given and would
>> only serve to divide the community rather than strengthening it.
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com> wrote:
>>>> 1) What would you like to see the US local chapter do?
>>>
>>> Come up with a consistent way to tag roads for the country.  Somehow
>>> get a consensus from current mappers about how tag
>>> US/state/county/whatever highways.  Update this page
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging
>>>
>>> and then remove "There is conflicting information on this topic at
>>> several places."
>>>
>>> Specifically, on the Way:
>>> ref=???
>>> highway=???
>>> name=???
>>>
>>> Add Way to Relation
>>> type=route
>>> route=road
>>> name=???
>>> network=???
>>> state_id=???
>>> ref=???
>>> modifier=???
>>> direction=???
>>>
>>> For exit Node:
>>> highway=motorway_junction
>>> name=???
>>> ref=???
>>> exit_to=???
>>>
>>> Once we know how to map what we have, then we can document in the wiki
>>> specifically how every numbered road should be documented.
>>>
>>>> 2) Why should this be done by the local chapter, and not by individual mappers?
>>>
>>> Every individual mapper can have their own idea about how these things
>>> should be tagged.  As it is right now, mappers look at the conflicting
>>> information on the wiki and then make an educated decision, only to
>>> have someone come in later and change the tags on the roads, often
>>> leaving the map in an inconsistent state.
>>>
>>> I think there may even already be a committee setup to tackle this very issue:
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Working_Groups/US_Tagging
>>>
>>>> 3) Why should this be done by the local chapter and not by the OSMF?
>>>
>>> Though there may be some global consistency with road tagging,
>>> standards need to be established for each country.  Road tagging is
>>> often influenced by US states making designations and signing each
>>> road accordingly.  These signs do not necessarily have an
>>> international equivalent.
>>>
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>>
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