[Talk-us] LA and other license changeover challenged areas.

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Mon Jan 30 23:00:21 GMT 2012

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Nick Hocking <nick.hocking at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Nathan wrote
> >
> >>On 1/30/2012 7:05 AM, Nick Hocking wrote:
> >
> >>> Be carefull with intersecting road Cypress Avenue, we can't recover the
> >>> cycleway tag unless you yourself have personal knowledge of this.
> >
> >>The bike lane markings can (barely) be seen on Bing aerials.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for that Nathan,
> >
> > Google street view clearly shows these markings as "Bike Lane" with an
> > arrow pointing ahead.  In all honesty I can't absolutely read this with
> > Bing aerials but knowing what these markings look like and their
> > position at the intersection, the Bing marking couldn't really be
> > anything else, (or could they?) Corner of Alice Street is about the
> > clearest one I can find.
> >
> > So what is the consensus, is the Bing imagery adequete for an armchair
> > mapper to claim the cycle lane or could Google claim that I cheated.
> I'd say knowing what they look like + Bing is sufficient if the road
> markings are actually there (not only the lane separator linear
> markings - that's too ambiguous). What I'm not sure of is whether bike
> lane road markings are the same across the US (ie a stylized bicycle +
> rider with an arrow point in the direction of bike traffic flow on
> top).

Depends on jurisdiction, but if it's not the standard bike symbol and an
idiot arrow, it's typically BIKE LANE, a lozenge symbol, and an idiot arrow
pointing in the direction of travel, or some combination of bike symbol,
words, diamonds and idiot arrows.
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