[Talk-us] Ferries

[Evin Fairchild]

But let's not forget that there's lots of ferries in Europe too! This would
not just be a tag for use here on ferry routes here in the Salish Sea, but
also ones in other parts of the world.

 

-Compdude

 

From: Paul Johnson [mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 6:20 PM
To: talk-us
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

 

Probably, but in this conversation's defense, Washington State has the
world's largest ferry fleet by far, so it's much more a Washingtonism than
anything.

 

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Evin Fairchild <evindfair at gmail.com> wrote:

Shouldn't we be discussing this on the tagging mailing list rather than the
talk-us mailing list? After all, ferries are all around the world, so we
should discuss this at the tagging mailing list rather than here if we want
to introduce a new highway=ferry_link tag.

 

-Compdude

 

From: Ivan Komarov [mailto:jkomarov at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 9:16 AM
To: Paul Johnson
Cc: talk-us
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

 

I'd vote for introducing a new tag, that is highway=ferry_link, rather than
trying to use an existing one that does not describe the object correctly.
There used to be and there will be disputes on this topic unless we have it
fixed. Introducing a new tagging scheme will cause some issues for a while,
but on the long run it would work better, I believe. 

On 8 Nov 2013 07:04, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:

I think highway=unclassified works, particularly if it's the fire lane used
for exiting the ferry that's always kept free of the ferry queue; not sure
how I'd tag the queue lot.

 

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Greg Troxel <gdt at ir.bbn.com> wrote:


Martijn van Exel <martijnv at telenav.com> writes:

> It's the other way around, really. We're adjusting our routing logic
> to adapt to OSM. Referring to the wiki, a service road is 'Generally
> for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite,
> industrial estate, business park, etc.' - so by that definition, a
> service road would typically only occur at the beginning or the end of
> the route, and that's what we tell our routing engine to do. If it
> were to turn out that this definition of what a service road is, is in
> fact not how it is generally used in mapping, then we'd need to
> revisit the wiki (and our routing rules) - but from what I have seen
> in my pretty extensive mapping experience in the U.S., the definition
> generally holds. So it makes sense to me to suggest a different
> tagging for these ferry access routes, not only (and not even
> primarily) to satisfy our or any third party logic using the data, but
> to bring more consistency to OSM in general.

That's fair enough.  I got the wrong impression earlier (perhaps my
misreading) that this was about a particular routing engine rather than
the documented semantics.

So perhaps highway=ferry_link, or perhaps the roads should just be
highway=unclassified.



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