[Talk-us] Rail westerly

[Natfoot]

Steve,
If you are finding PCIX those are the call letters for the railroad that is
the owner, they may also be the operator.

Now here is the tricky bit, I will use the example of a local short line
railroad.

This railroad the property is owned by the county and the port; one
railroad (GNPX) has the operating rights who then contracts with a second
company that is a railroad (BDTL) yet the line in which they are running is
known as another railroad (ESFR).

If any of you can sort this out into the proper categories I think it will
help a few many people.

If I had to sort out the problem in the past email I would say that it is
probably laid out as such: Join Powers Board is the landowner CalTrain is
the owner, operator, and UP has operational rights to the corridor.

Best Regards,
Nathan P

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 6:13 PM, stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:

> On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:35 PM, stevea wrote:
>>  > Yes, I'll use owner= if known, and it is name= which displays in ORM
>> as the name of the line.  Many lines had name= as the service run upon them
>> (like Caltrain instead of Union Pacific), and I have corrected this where I
>> know it was wrong in OSM.  But I haven't corrected all of these, just the
>> ones I know.  And now I think I'll have to go back and correct name=Union
>> Pacific as the name of Union Pacific's subdivision for the line that
>> Caltrain is run upon: Caltrain itself should be a relation.  And so on.
>>
>
> Tod Fitch replies:
>
>> I was under the very strong impression that the main line from San Jose
>> to San Francisco is owned by the Joint Powers Board (CalTrain) and not by
>> Union Pacific. I believe that there are branches off that owned by Union
>> Pacific and maybe even BNSF but that the main right of way was actually
>> Caltrain's. Any place one could confirm or deny that?
>>
>
> Let's suppose Joint Powers Board is the owner.  Does that mean that
> owner=Joint Powers Board, operator=Caltrain (and a route relation for
> Caltrain's services:  Baby Bullet and Local) is correct?  What do we put
> into the name= tag?  A subdivision name?  Perhaps "Joint Powers Board" (as
> well as, or instead of the owner tag)?
>
> As I look in the (excellent) "CPUC_Rail_Crossing_List_v20140603.xls"
> document recently pointed to, I find no occurrence of "Joint Powers Board"
> in the whole sheet.  Though, I do recognize it as a real entity that
> administers the Caltrain service (and it may own the track, too).  I do
> find "PCIX:  Caltrain" in the Rail System column, though, so that is a good
> indication we might put PCIX, Caltrain, or PCIX:Caltrain in the name= tag.
>
> It seems we are still a little unclear on how to (fully, "properly") tag
> rail in the USA, with California trying to be a leader in OSM (again), but
> at least this discussion seems to be getting us closer. Good!
>
> SteveA
> California
>
>
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