[Talk-us] Proposal to Remove Two Duplicate Route Relations in Texas

Kam, Kristen -(p) kristenk at telenav.com
Wed Jan 8 00:19:42 UTC 2014


Hello,

I am writing in regards to the highway route relations representing US 59 and US 281 in the state of Texas.

For US Highway 59, I edited route relation 71232 (http://osm.org/relation/71232). After editing said relation (1475243;http://www.osm.org/relation/1475243), I noticed there is a relation that has members that are also members to 71232.  Relation 1475243 is essentially a duplicate of 71232 and I would like to delete this relation from the database. I contacted a user (Cam4rd98) who previously edited 1475243 and mentioned the action the subject to him/her. To date, I have not received a response. Instead of following up with the user it was suggested to me that I ought to message the list. Therefore I am proposing to you all the removal of relation 1475243.

In addition, I would like to remove relation 1475274 (http://www.osm.org/relation/1475274) because its members are also members of relation 1628532 (http://www.osm.org/relation/ 1628532) and thus is a duplicate.

Does anyone object to my proposal to remove both relations?

Best,

Kristen

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From: Sebastian Arcus [mailto:s.arcus at open-t.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 1:07 PM
To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area

Thanks Volker. It's interesting that there is at least one source that suggests the existence of that school at some point in time, at least.

On 06/01/14 13:39, Volker Schmidt wrote:
According to the USGS Scanned Topographic Maps Layer (in JOSM) there was a "Sur School (abandoned)" exactly on the other side of the road from where the actual node is in OSM (I suppose where the stand of trees is on the areal photograph). I mapped in that area in 2011 and was also looking for it, but did not find anything on the ground, but I did not look on the other side of the road (I did not use the scanned maps layer at the time).
I suggest you move the node across the street, add a source "USGS Sacnned Topographic Maps" and mark it as abandoned. There is certainly no building there any more.
Volker
(Padova, Italy)

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   1. Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area
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      (Richard Welty)
   3. Mappy New Year (Richard Weait)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:21:43 +0000
From: Sebastian Arcus <s.arcus at open-t.co.uk<mailto:s.arcus at open-t.co.uk>>
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Subject: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area
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I'm doing a bit of mapping south of Monterey based on some notes I've
taken two months ago, and I've stumbled over this school on the map:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.31044/-121.88636

A search on the Internet doesn't reveal anything called "Sur School". A
search for schools in the area reveals some schools further south - but
nothing close to where this school is on the map and nothing similar
sounding. Also, looking at the satellite imagery, there is nothing close
to this point on the map that looks like either a building or some
remnants of one. There are the disused "Point Sur Naval Facility"
buildings on the other side of the road, but we know what those are and
they are not a school.

I think the best thing to do is to delete this object. However, could
someone who either lives in the area or has local knowledge confirm that
this school really doesn't exist. All the evidence so far points to it
being the case, but it would be nice if we could have "on the ground"
confirmation before I delete it.

Thanks



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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:04:49 -0500
From: Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net<mailto:rwelty at averillpark.net>>
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA
        area
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On 1/5/14 3:21 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote:
> I'm doing a bit of mapping south of Monterey based on some notes I've
> taken two months ago, and I've stumbled over this school on the map:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.31044/-121.88636
>
> A search on the Internet doesn't reveal anything called "Sur School".
> A search for schools in the area reveals some schools further south -
> but nothing close to where this school is on the map and nothing
> similar sounding. Also, looking at the satellite imagery, there is
> nothing close to this point on the map that looks like either a
> building or some remnants of one. There are the disused "Point Sur
> Naval Facility" buildings on the other side of the road, but we know
> what those are and they are not a school.
>
> I think the best thing to do is to delete this object. However, could
> someone who either lives in the area or has local knowledge confirm
> that this school really doesn't exist. All the evidence so far points
> to it being the case, but it would be nice if we could have "on the
> ground" confirmation before I delete it.
that's from the GNIS import. there is some good data in the GNIS import,
but there is some bad data and some out of date data as well. the
wrong/out of date stuff is frequently schools, churches, etc. best if
you can persuade a local to check it out, but the odds are that it
should be 1) deleted or 2) arked historic

richard


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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:08:31 -0500
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Subject: [Talk-us] Mappy New Year
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Hi All,

I hope that you are off to a great start on your mapping activities for 2014.

OpenStreetMap is certainly off to a great start.  User emacsen wrote a
compelling article today that drove a significant number of new
mappers to OpenStreetMap.  That's some great advocacy, right there.
The article is really aimed at folks who are not yet mappers, so not
really the same audience of these lists, as we're already mappers.
but you might enjoy the article anyway.  Have a look.

http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/

In 2014 we will see the 10 anniversary / birthday of OpenStreetMap.
What are you going to do to celebrate?  We (the local mappers in
Toronto) will host another OpenStreetMap Mapiversary party, details to
be determined, how about your local group?

On that subject, is this the year that you'll start a local mapping
group in your town?

I've never understood why it is that the German community has groups
of mappers that meet each month, in just about every city, town and
village of size, while in North America those groups are very rare.
It could be that the difference is you.  You can start a successful,
self-sustaining local group that meets each month to discuss
OpenStreetMap.  So you should do that.  It's great fun.

Part of our fun in Toronto in 2013 included, the 9th birthday party,
including a map cake.  Twelve regularly scheduled Mappy Hour events,
two formal presentation events, three special guest events to
celebrate august mappers visiting from other places.  (and a little
bit of a flood, but we soldiered on anyway.)

What about this thread?  Tell me, what your plans are for 2014?

and have a Mappy New Year,

Richard



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