[Talk-us] Proposal to Remove Two Duplicate Route Relations in Texas

Clay Smalley claysmalley at gmail.com
Wed Jan 8 02:15:34 UTC 2014


Cam4rd98 is an interesting character, I'll say that. He's new and
enthusiastic about mapping, but doesn't quite understand the conventions of
OSM. I haven't had to talk to him recently, but previously he's been
unresponsive to messages.

In this case, I'd say send him a message and delete the relation. If he
notices it gone, maybe he'll read his inbox for once.
Am 07.01.2014 18:20 schrieb "Kam, Kristen -(p)" <kristenk at telenav.com>:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am writing in regards to the highway route relations representing US 59
> and US 281 in the state of Texas.
>
>
>
> For US Highway 59, I edited route relation 71232 (
> http://osm.org/relation/71232). After editing said relation (1475243;
> http://www.osm.org/relation/1475243), I noticed there is a relation that
> has members that are also members to 71232.  Relation 1475243 is
> essentially a duplicate of 71232 and I would like to delete this relation
> from the database. I contacted a user (Cam4rd98) who previously edited
> 1475243 and mentioned the action the subject to him/her. To date, I have
> not received a response. Instead of following up with the user it was
> suggested to me that I ought to message the list. Therefore I am proposing
> to you all the removal of relation 1475243.
>
>
>
> In addition, I would like to remove relation 1475274 (
> http://www.osm.org/relation/1475274) because its members are also members
> of relation 1628532 (http://www.osm.org/relation/ 1628532) and thus is a
> duplicate.
>
>
>
> Does anyone object to my proposal to remove both relations?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Kristen
>
>
>
> ---
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> OSM Profile à http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KristenK
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> *From:* Sebastian Arcus [mailto:s.arcus at open-t.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 1:07 PM
> *To:* talk-us at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area
>
>
>
> Thanks Volker. It's interesting that there is at least one source that
> suggests the existence of that school at some point in time, at least.
>
> On 06/01/14 13:39, Volker Schmidt wrote:
>
> According to the USGS Scanned Topographic Maps Layer (in JOSM) there was a
> "Sur School (abandoned)" exactly on the other side of the road from where
> the actual node is in OSM (I suppose where the stand of trees is on the
> areal photograph). I mapped in that area in 2011 and was also looking for
> it, but did not find anything on the ground, but I did not look on the
> other side of the road (I did not use the scanned maps layer at the time).
>
> I suggest you move the node across the street, add a source "USGS Sacnned
> Topographic Maps" and mark it as abandoned. There is certainly no building
> there any more.
>
> Volker
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> (Padova, Italy)
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>    1. Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area
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>    2. Re: Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area
>       (Richard Welty)
>    3. Mappy New Year (Richard Weait)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:21:43 +0000
> From: Sebastian Arcus <s.arcus at open-t.co.uk>
> To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA area
> Message-ID: <52C9BED7.9060608 at open-t.co.uk>
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> I'm doing a bit of mapping south of Monterey based on some notes I've
> taken two months ago, and I've stumbled over this school on the map:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.31044/-121.88636
>
> A search on the Internet doesn't reveal anything called "Sur School". A
> search for schools in the area reveals some schools further south - but
> nothing close to where this school is on the map and nothing similar
> sounding. Also, looking at the satellite imagery, there is nothing close
> to this point on the map that looks like either a building or some
> remnants of one. There are the disused "Point Sur Naval Facility"
> buildings on the other side of the road, but we know what those are and
> they are not a school.
>
> I think the best thing to do is to delete this object. However, could
> someone who either lives in the area or has local knowledge confirm that
> this school really doesn't exist. All the evidence so far points to it
> being the case, but it would be nice if we could have "on the ground"
> confirmation before I delete it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:04:49 -0500
> From: Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
> To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school in Big Sur, CA
>         area
> Message-ID: <52C9E511.9060004 at averillpark.net>
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> On 1/5/14 3:21 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote:
> > I'm doing a bit of mapping south of Monterey based on some notes I've
> > taken two months ago, and I've stumbled over this school on the map:
> >
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.31044/-121.88636
> >
> > A search on the Internet doesn't reveal anything called "Sur School".
> > A search for schools in the area reveals some schools further south -
> > but nothing close to where this school is on the map and nothing
> > similar sounding. Also, looking at the satellite imagery, there is
> > nothing close to this point on the map that looks like either a
> > building or some remnants of one. There are the disused "Point Sur
> > Naval Facility" buildings on the other side of the road, but we know
> > what those are and they are not a school.
> >
> > I think the best thing to do is to delete this object. However, could
> > someone who either lives in the area or has local knowledge confirm
> > that this school really doesn't exist. All the evidence so far points
> > to it being the case, but it would be nice if we could have "on the
> > ground" confirmation before I delete it.
> that's from the GNIS import. there is some good data in the GNIS import,
> but there is some bad data and some out of date data as well. the
> wrong/out of date stuff is frequently schools, churches, etc. best if
> you can persuade a local to check it out, but the odds are that it
> should be 1) deleted or 2) arked historic
>
> richard
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:08:31 -0500
> From: Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
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> Subject: [Talk-us] Mappy New Year
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> Hi All,
>
> I hope that you are off to a great start on your mapping activities for
> 2014.
>
> OpenStreetMap is certainly off to a great start.  User emacsen wrote a
> compelling article today that drove a significant number of new
> mappers to OpenStreetMap.  That's some great advocacy, right there.
> The article is really aimed at folks who are not yet mappers, so not
> really the same audience of these lists, as we're already mappers.
> but you might enjoy the article anyway.  Have a look.
>
> http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/
>
> In 2014 we will see the 10 anniversary / birthday of OpenStreetMap.
> What are you going to do to celebrate?  We (the local mappers in
> Toronto) will host another OpenStreetMap Mapiversary party, details to
> be determined, how about your local group?
>
> On that subject, is this the year that you'll start a local mapping
> group in your town?
>
> I've never understood why it is that the German community has groups
> of mappers that meet each month, in just about every city, town and
> village of size, while in North America those groups are very rare.
> It could be that the difference is you.  You can start a successful,
> self-sustaining local group that meets each month to discuss
> OpenStreetMap.  So you should do that.  It's great fun.
>
> Part of our fun in Toronto in 2013 included, the 9th birthday party,
> including a map cake.  Twelve regularly scheduled Mappy Hour events,
> two formal presentation events, three special guest events to
> celebrate august mappers visiting from other places.  (and a little
> bit of a flood, but we soldiered on anyway.)
>
> What about this thread?  Tell me, what your plans are for 2014?
>
> and have a Mappy New Year,
>
> Richard
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