[Talk-us] Tagging a seasonally closed roads with uncertain spring opening

Greg Morgan dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com
Sun Nov 9 00:00:01 UTC 2014


I am wondering what can done to provide travelers planning information via
OSM. You have to rely on local news while you are in a foreign area.  How
can a gated road be tagged so that travelers know to plan an alternate road
or think about hotel reservations for the night?  I am not happy with my
Skunk Creek gates but at least they are there.  More minuta below.

Regards,
Greg


Yep.  You have take the northeast entrance of Yellowstone Park to get to
Cooke City Montana on US 212 during the winter.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/44.5018/-109.9734
http://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/810-beartooth-highway-usa.html

There is the same issue with the east entrance of the Yellowstone Park.
You have to hang out at Pahaska Tepee until the road clears.  That's all
the way into late May most years
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/44.5020/-109.9629

I marked the flood gates by Skunk Creek on West Dove Valley Road.  I put
them to the side of the road because a gate on the road implies the wrong
message.  The Arizona method of road construction is you scrape out a dirt
road.  The ground is hard enough that we can get away with it.  Later on
you throw some tar down when you have more money.  More money means a
cement plug through the river bed so that the road survives flooding.  Pray
and wait for the funding for a bridge.

I noted that Wyoming has all these snow gates outside of cities along I90
and other roads.  There are plans to put up wind farms for California in
some of these areas.

A week or so after first flood late August 2014
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/33.78419/-112.12596
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tbHhMckFxbFV6MUE/view
*https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view>*
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tdFdXenZyRFVVT0U/view
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tdFdXenZyRFVVT0U/view?usp=sharing>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tV0ZKVlN6SDlTY3c/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSTJ1MXZQVVNaemM/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tUDNScnJhdlJYTnc/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tbFNNUlNaNy12SG8/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tUDNScnJhdlJYTnc/view

The next morning after the second flood second week September 2014
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.59086/-111.97704
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSUhHczBibWRJYVE/view?usp=sharing>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSUhHczBibWRJYVE/view
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSUhHczBibWRJYVE/view?usp=sharing>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS3hfT3p3U3VMS1k/view
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS3hfT3p3U3VMS1k/view?usp=sharing>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTkhkbWE1UFgzcGs/view
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTkhkbWE1UFgzcGs/view?usp=sharing>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4telBqdlVRVDhtbVk/view

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.58235/-111.98358
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tZkliMmVOaExURzg/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTmRoYjVkZWN3R2s/view

Wyoming snow gate somewhere west of Buffalo
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/44.3290/-106.7929
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tRk5IUHJGb3p4ak0/view
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tRk5IUHJGb3p4ak0/view?usp=sharing>

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/08/01/snow_fences_how_do_they_work_what_are_they_where_did_they_come_from_photos.html
http://www.usroads.com/journals/rej/9702/re970201.htm

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM, David Chiles <dwalterc at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree something like
>
> access:conditional=no @ (winter)
>
> access:conditional=no @ (Nov - Apr)
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Am 03.11.2014 um 16:03 schrieb Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>:
>> >
>> > seems access=seasonal isn't in wide use but would be correct
>>
>>
>> I think that this is not so nice tagging as it doesn't say anything about
>> which season you'll be allowed to access. I would suggest conditional
>> access, see the wiki for more info, it is something like
>> access:conditional=no @ winter (I'm on mobile and didn't check this syntax)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Martin
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