[Talk-us] Pennsylvania's quadrant routes

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Fri Jan 16 15:52:34 UTC 2015

I'm very much in favor of PA instead of SR for disambiguation purposes.
On Jan 16, 2015 2:15 AM, "James Mast" <rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have happened to notice (mostly in Eastern Pennsylvania) that some users
> have added these routes from the old 'name_*' tags and putting them in the
> 'ref=*' tags as "ref=SR1234".  The problem here is that Pennsylvania
> doesn't post these routes (except in little white mileage signs [1][2]
> or/and [just in rural areas normally] an occasional street blade) like the
> 'normal' state highways numbered 1-999 in the 'Keystone shields'.  Also the
> quadrant routes are duplicated all over the state in each county.  Thus, I
> don't think they would qualify for being added to the 'ref' tag on ways,
> but also don't truly count for the 'unsigned_ref' tag as well because they
> are posted in a way, just not really for the traveling public to see unless
> they were really looking for them.
> So, I've come up with a possible replacement tag of 'ref:penndot=SR ****'
> [3] for these routes that are only signed with the white mileage signs.
> With this tag, it still allows the quadrant routes to be added, but not to
> take up the normal 'ref' tag when it's needed for another route (there are
> a few normal state routes on quadrant routes, like PA-3 for a small area in
> Philadelphia, or US-19 Truck in Pittsburgh, or even the Allegheny County
> Belt System [3] in some areas).
> What do you guys think about this?  If nobody has any problems with them,
> I think we should fix them as we see them (no bot running unless somebody
> with knowing how to run one would be willing to do it).  I just want to see
> a constant tagging scheme for them.
> -James
> [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_State_Routes_in_Pennsylvania
> [2] - http://goo.gl/maps/NdVrn
> [3] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311525727
> [4] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegheny_County_belt_system
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