[Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

Fri Apr 22 05:52:47 UTC 2016

I filled out the contact form on the Mobify website as they are the ones
that are being attributed without also crediting OSM.  I'll let you know if
I hear anything back.

Meanwhile, Cricket Wireless is running a store locator page, which is also
using the MapBox tiles derived from OSM data, but without attribution:
https://www.cricketwireless.com/stores

Cricket has an elaborate page about submitting copyright claims:
https://www.cricketwireless.com/legal-info/cricket-wireless-copyright-trademark-claims.html

As a first step, I tried sending an email to copyright at cricketwireless.com.
However, that email bounced back with a "#550 5.1.1
RESOLVER.ADR.RecipNotFound; not found ##"
I'm not sure about the best way to proceed from here.

Peter

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Matt Simpson <matt at mag.cr> wrote:
>
>> All - seaming to understand the intent of this thread and hoping to shed
>> some light for you.
>>
>> Our team (MAGNETIC) was hired to design/develop the pieology website.
>> Pieology also hired a company to build their store locator, which was
>> outside our scope of work. The company they hired for store location
>> services is Momentfeed (https://momentfeed.com/), seemingly a branch or
>> distributor of Mobify, who looks to be using your service at the core of
>> the location tool they provide.
>>
>> I would suggest contacting Momentfeed and/or Mobify to discuss
>> attribution. As someone mentioned earlier, Pieology will have very little
>> input on the matter.
>>
>> Hope this helps -
>>
>>
> Matt,
>
> Thank you for the response.  www.OpenStreetMap.org is a crowd sourced map
> of the world. I love it that the Pieology site is using OSM.  There are a
> number of other notable sites that are using OSM such as Craig's list
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/fua .  We are just trying to get to
> the bottom of which firm should put the correct attribution on the Pieology
> site.  I provided the CL map because it has the proper attribution.
>
> Again thank you for the response.
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting, a bit troubling, to see an increasing number of layers —
>>>> abstraction — between the end user and the OSM data. Now it’s three — the
>>>> web site itself, Mobify (never heard of them), Mapbox —  between the end
>>>> user and OSM. Makes it easier for all the intermediaries to point to the
>>>> others for attribution requirements. And harder for the OSM community to
>>>> enforce this simple but important requirement. OSM can only benefit from
>>>> having many eyes on the map if we can continue to close this feedback loop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is one more layer of abstraction: the design firm
>>> http://www.magneticcreative.com/.  It seems that Magnetic Creative
>>> would understand this issue.  They have their name in fine print at the
>>> bottom of each page on the site.  Just as they want their name published
>>> for potential clients, OpenStreetMap would like attribution for potential
>>> future mappers.  I added their email to the list.  They would have to join
>>> the list to respond, etc.  However, they should be able to pick up the
>>> drift from this email chain.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this
>>>> present on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?
>>>>
>>>> Martijn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse.jr at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kliems at gmail.com <kliems at gmail.com>]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
>>>> *To:* Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
>>>> *Cc:* talk-us at openstreetmap.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages
>>>>
>>>> Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I
>>>> have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and
>>>> wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
>>>> http://www.mobify.com/contact/
>>>>
>>>>  Harald.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <
>>>> hans.dekryger13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
>>>> info at pieology.com if you want to contact them.
>>>>
>>>> *Regards,*
>>>> *Hans*
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
>>>> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
>>>> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone seen this?
>>>>
>>>> http://locations.pieology.com/
>>>>
>>>> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner, but
>>>> I can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ anywhere
>>>> on the page.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
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