[Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

Peter Dobratz peter at dobratz.us
Fri Apr 22 19:02:04 UTC 2016


I heard back from Mobify.  It seems that they think because they have
purchased an "enterprise subscription" to MapBox, they are exempt from
needing to include OSM attribution on their maps.

My message to Mobify:

> I was looking at the following webpage with your logo in the lower left
> corner of the map: http://locations.pieology.com/ The map tiles you are
> using are derived from OpenStreetMap data. This data is created by
> thousands of worldwide volunteers such as myself. Please update the
> Pieology Store Locator page to include OpenStreetMap attribution as
> described here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright The map tiles you
> are using are generated by MapBox using OpenStreetMap data. The following
> page lists some technical tips for adding proper attribution:
> https://www.mapbox.com/help/attribution/


Melissa Cheng @ Mobify's response:

> Hi Peter,
> Thanks for reaching out and thanks for the work you do!  We love our maps.
> Re: your message below, I wanted to let you know that we have an
> enterprise subscription to mapbox that allows us to whitelabel the maps.
>
> Have a great weekend,
> Melissa



 Peter

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us> wrote:

> I filled out the contact form on the Mobify website as they are the ones
> that are being attributed without also crediting OSM.  I'll let you know if
> I hear anything back.
>
>
> Meanwhile, Cricket Wireless is running a store locator page, which is also
> using the MapBox tiles derived from OSM data, but without attribution:
> https://www.cricketwireless.com/stores
>
> Cricket has an elaborate page about submitting copyright claims:
>
> https://www.cricketwireless.com/legal-info/cricket-wireless-copyright-trademark-claims.html
>
> As a first step, I tried sending an email to copyright at cricketwireless.com.
> However, that email bounced back with a "#550 5.1.1
> RESOLVER.ADR.RecipNotFound; not found ##"
> I'm not sure about the best way to proceed from here.
>
> Peter
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Matt Simpson <matt at mag.cr> wrote:
>>
>>> All - seaming to understand the intent of this thread and hoping to shed
>>> some light for you.
>>>
>>> Our team (MAGNETIC) was hired to design/develop the pieology website.
>>> Pieology also hired a company to build their store locator, which was
>>> outside our scope of work. The company they hired for store location
>>> services is Momentfeed (https://momentfeed.com/), seemingly a branch or
>>> distributor of Mobify, who looks to be using your service at the core of
>>> the location tool they provide.
>>>
>>> I would suggest contacting Momentfeed and/or Mobify to discuss
>>> attribution. As someone mentioned earlier, Pieology will have very little
>>> input on the matter.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps -
>>>
>>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> Thank you for the response.  www.OpenStreetMap.org is a crowd sourced
>> map of the world. I love it that the Pieology site is using OSM.  There are
>> a number of other notable sites that are using OSM such as Craig's list
>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/fua .  We are just trying to get to
>> the bottom of which firm should put the correct attribution on the Pieology
>> site.  I provided the CL map because it has the proper attribution.
>>
>> Again thank you for the response.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting, a bit troubling, to see an increasing number of layers —
>>>>> abstraction — between the end user and the OSM data. Now it’s three — the
>>>>> web site itself, Mobify (never heard of them), Mapbox —  between the end
>>>>> user and OSM. Makes it easier for all the intermediaries to point to the
>>>>> others for attribution requirements. And harder for the OSM community to
>>>>> enforce this simple but important requirement. OSM can only benefit from
>>>>> having many eyes on the map if we can continue to close this feedback loop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is one more layer of abstraction: the design firm
>>>> http://www.magneticcreative.com/.  It seems that Magnetic Creative
>>>> would understand this issue.  They have their name in fine print at the
>>>> bottom of each page on the site.  Just as they want their name published
>>>> for potential clients, OpenStreetMap would like attribution for potential
>>>> future mappers.  I added their email to the list.  They would have to join
>>>> the list to respond, etc.  However, they should be able to pick up the
>>>> drift from this email chain.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this
>>>>> present on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Martijn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse.jr at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kliems at gmail.com <kliems at gmail.com>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
>>>>> *To:* Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
>>>>> *Cc:* talk-us at openstreetmap.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator
>>>>> pages
>>>>>
>>>>> Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider.
>>>>> I have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and
>>>>> wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
>>>>> http://www.mobify.com/contact/
>>>>>
>>>>>  Harald.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <
>>>>> hans.dekryger13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
>>>>> info at pieology.com if you want to contact them.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>> *Hans*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
>>>>> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
>>>>> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen this?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://locations.pieology.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner,
>>>>> but I can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ anywhere
>>>>> on the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
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