[Talk-us] Editing US National Parks

Lawlis, Chad chad_lawlis at partner.nps.gov
Fri Apr 29 17:39:25 UTC 2016

Hi everyone,

Chad from NPMap here. Sorry for the confusion on this - that blog post is
from 2013 and admittedly it is outdated at this point. The "Improve Park
Tiles" page is a bit outdated as well, in light of a recent Park Tiles
release, but we plan on updating it here soon.

So, to clarify. NPS does use a modified version of the iD Editor, what we
call Places Editor, but this does not pull data in from or push data out to
OpenStreetMap. The Places database is internal to NPS, with data uploaded
only by NPS employees, and it feeds directly into Park Tiles. While the
previous version of Park Tiles, 2.1, rendered Places points of interest on
top of OSM basemap data (roads, trails, buildings, parking, etc), the
latest version of Park Tiles, 3, shows only Places data inside of park
boundaries and defaults to OpenStreetMap data outside of park boundaries.

The {"nps:verified":"yes"} tag was a concept back in 2013, at the time of
the blog post being referenced, but it is not something we are currently
implementing or are planning to implement any time soon. At this point we
are not importing data from Places into OpenStreetMap, though this is
something we are interested in exploring in collaboration with the
community down the road.

Take a look at our more recent blog posts here
https://www.nps.gov/npmap/blog/ for more up to date information on all of
this. We hope to release more up to date documentation soon as well.


On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us>
> wrote:
>> From past conversations with NPS employees I've learned that NPS is using
>> a modified version of the iD editor. Changesets from that editor are
>> uploaded to both OSM and NPS. The OSM data is added to our database while
>> the NPS feed is sent to be validated before being added to NPS data.
>> Read the article [1] on NPS website for a better description of the
>> process.
>> [1]
>> https://www.nps.gov/npmap/blog/nps-plus-osm-equals-places-of-interest.html
>> I don't have any objection to what is in the blog post, and it sounds
> like a great program. Perhaps the person with whom I was having the
> discussion was referring to their copy of OSM when they said "lock down",
> which they are free to do.
> "nps:verified=yes" may prove problematic for them as anyone is free to
> modify an element with that tag and not remove the tag. From an overall OSM
> perspective, other than taking up some DB space, I don't think it hurts.
> Mike

Chad Lawlis
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