[Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

Russell Deffner russell.deffner at hotosm.org
Wed May 11 22:41:39 UTC 2016


Hi Charlotte, good to hear from you, hope all is well!

Essentially, yes to all that (except I'm not sure on landuse=conservation); looks 'depreciated' via http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse 

As far as how to 'properly tag' the various types of 'National' protected areas, I think this table has the most recent/good conceptually schema:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area#Protect_classes_for_various_countries 

Then we can get back to 'what is a forest/tree/scrub/etc.' :)  On a serious note, yes - I think it's going to take some 'micro-mapping' to accurately show usage of our natural resources. Back to the Ski Resort/Piste mapping, yep - Breck and Copper and about 1/2 dozen other ski resorts are 'inside White River NF' with agreement/contracts with USFS, but we don't tag the whole forest winter recreation area - which it seems someone deleted my polygon around Copper :(

=Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Wolter [mailto:techlady at techlady.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:22 PM
To: Talk-US at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

Russ,

         I think you have come closest to a good 
general description of something with multiple 
uses. Yes, above all, U.S. national forests are protected.
         So, does that mean that tagging is 
boundary=protected_area and landuse=conservation, 
along with, of course, tagging of individual 
features/uses, such as campground, fishing, archaeological site, etc.?

Charlotte


At 05:07 AM 5/11/2016, you wrote:

>Hi Greg and all,
>Sorry, I either need a refund on that Forestry 
>degree or have to call this out as incorrect:
>Perhaps the problem here is the multiple roles 
>that the the US Forest Service plays. Note that 
>that name is from the olden days. Now the 
>service is know as the National Park Service.
>The National Park Service and National Forest 
>Service are too very different things (i.e. 
>branches of government, US Department of 
>Interior versus Department of Agriculture respectively).
>I think we need to return to that "basic 
>question" – what is the main "service"/function 
>of these services – Protection! The only reason 
>we have National Forests, Parks, etc. is to 
>protect them, not use – although yes, usage is 
>allowed under the various rules/regulations of the particular unit.
>=Russ
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