[Talk-us] FBI using OSM on website... without attribution

Joseph R. Justice jayarejay at gmail.com
Sat Jul 1 04:31:25 UTC 2017


(Well, since everybody else is top posting...)

Since it was my bright idea to contact the webmaster, and since everyone
else posting seems to claim that no such link exists, I thought I'd go
ahead and look and see if I could find something others had missed.

Well, no, I can't find a "Contact the Webmaster" link, or even a "Contact
Us" *e-mail* link, either.  (The link
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquarters gives a paper mail address
and phone number, but no e-mail address.)

I did however find an "Accessibility" page,
https://www.fbi.gov/accessibility , which says:

"If you have any other questions or problems about the FBI.gov site, you
may contact the FBI.gov content manager in writing or via telephone at:

Federal Bureau of Investigation
Attention: FBI Internet Content Manager
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Room 7790-C
Washington, DC 20535-0001
(202) 324-3000

You can also send an e-mail to FBI_Accessibility at ic.fbi.gov."

That might be of some use, even tho this isn't specifically an
accessibility issue.  If nothing else, hopefully they would know how to
forward a legal / copyright issue on to whomever within the web team there
is supposed to deal with such.

If someone does contact them about this issue, perhaps a suggestion that
there should be a "Contact the Webmaster" link or web form or something
should be made, too?

Hope this is of some use, interest.  Thanks for your time.  Be well.



On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Mikel Maron <mikel.maron at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm going to check with some USG tech friends to see if they know anyone
> on the FBI web team. I think it may prove more expedient and get better
> attention than calling or emailing parts of the bureau which have little to
> do with this.
>
> -Mikel
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 <(415)%20283-5207> @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Friday, June 30, 2017 5:28 PM, Dale Puch <dale.puch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> My mistake, Leaflet's example map and code on their main page do show
> correct attribution to OSM
>
> So back to the FBI  https://www.fbi.gov/cve508/technical-support seems to
> suggest contacting a community outreach specialist in your local field
> office (via a dead link for me).
> https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/richmond/community-outreach-1
> just lists Training.RH at ic.fbi.gov as a possible contact
>
> Dale Puch
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Denis Carriere <carriere.denis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's not Leaflet's fault the attribution is incorrect, their website is
> disabling the default attribution and adding a custom one.
>
> *~~~~~~*
> *Denis Carriere*
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Dale Puch <dale.puch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A better route is to contact http://leafletjs.com/ since they are
> providing the actual map data thru their script.  Also they probably do so
> for lots of other sites.
> Leaflet does attribute Openstreetmap at the bottom of their main page page
> though.
>
> Dale Puch
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 2:36 PM, David Kewley <david.t.kewley at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It looks like all the FBI field office sites are essentially part of the
> national site, so they're all probably managed centrally. They all credit
> Leaflet in the map widget, and use OSM tiles without crediting OSM.
>
> It's been years since I've noticed webmaster links, like we used to have
> in the early days of the Web. Poking around, I couldn't find any technical
> feedback links at all on fbi.gov. Ideas for contacting someone who might
> be able to help with this issue:
>
>    - Call the national FBI number: (202) 324-3000 from https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us
>    /fbi-headquarters <https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquarters>.
>    - Email one of the Community Outreach addresses available at various
>    field offices ("Community Outreach" link near the top of each field
>    office's page). E.g. for the San Francisco office, it's
>    outreach.sf at ic.fbi.gov from https://www.fbi.gov/conta
>    ct-us/field-offices/sanfrancis co/community-outreach-1
>    <https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/sanfrancisco/community-outreach-1>.
>    Some other field offices also have outreach email addresses.
>    - On their "Businesses" page https://www.fbi.gov/resou rces/businesses
>    <https://www.fbi.gov/resources/businesses>, they have a link for
>    "Intellectual Property Theft/Piracy" at https://www.fbi.gov/investi
>    gate/white-collar-crime/piracy -ip-theft
>    <https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/white-collar-crime/piracy-ip-theft>.
>    While this issue seems economically tiny compared to the IP theft issues
>    they tend to spend time on, it might be possible to get someone's help this
>    way, since it's their own website. (Although the reporting methods I found
>    went to other offices, not obviously directly to the FBI.)
>
> I won't be following up on these in the foreseeable future, but if someone
> else does follow up, please let us all know what happens.
>
> David
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Joseph R. Justice <jayarejay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us /field-offices/denver
> <https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/denver>
>
> See map in upper right part of page
>
>
> Does either the page for the Denver field office, and/or the nation-wide
> field office locator referred to in a separate post in this thread, include
> a "Contact the Webmaster" sort of link?  Or even just a "Contact Us" link?
> Those would be a first obvious point of contact, I'd think...
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
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