[Talk-us] reporting Pokemon Go related vandalism

Jack Burke burkejf3 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 13 16:11:37 UTC 2017

I just came across this OSM user diary which links to yet another article
on how to manipulate OSM for Pokemon:

The bothersome part is the replies to the diary entry where people bring up
the new edits they've made for the game.  Since I'm nowhere near any of
them, I don't know if they're good or bad edits.....

On the plus side, the linked article (
http://pokemongoinformer.com/create-your-own-nest-in-pokemon-go/) very
clearly and specifically says that OSM is used for a lot of things and for
people NOT to create items near their homes just for their own use, and to
only create things that exist in the real world.


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Brian May <bmay at mapwise.com> wrote:

> Been following the thread - my two cents on what I'm seeing around
> Florida.
> 1) Seems like a major increase in new mappers and edits in just the past
> two weeks, and before that an increase overall since the pokemon / osm
> connection was publicized.
> 2) Many /most of the influx of new mappers are adding footways, parks,
> meadows, and water.
> 3) A decent number of are completely fake - 15%?
> 4) Some are a mixture of real and fake.
> 5) Most are small edits, like adding a few features in one or two
> changesets, but some are very prolific adding hundreds of features in many
> changesets.
> 6) Many edits are not very spatially accurate, but some are really great.
> 7) A few mappers are breaking every rule in the book and making really bad
> edits.
> 8) Overall its a net gain, but its a lot of work to try and review these
> edits, make contact, do reverts if necessary, cleanup, etc.
> In some cases, I'm not sure what to do. For example, one mapper is really
> prolific, but just mostly wrong in they way they are mapping things.
> Another case, looks like a mapper mapped a large paved area next to a road
> as a park, and named it whatever he wanted (he has also named many paths
> and lakes what appear to be fantasy / fake names). I asked him if there was
> really a park there and the reply was there was street art displayed there,
> so its a park.
> Another mapper converted a section of a primary road running through South
> Beach Miami to a footpath and extended a park to cover it. The changeset
> comment was something like "making the park look more like it does in real
> life." Another mapper and I commented on his changeset, he didn't respond,
> I reverted and cleaned it up, and he appears to be doing more edits that
> are tied to reality.
> Another one said "a park is here" and put the park over relatively new
> single family houses.
> Overall, its really interesting to see such a large and focused group
> descending on (embracing?) OSM so quickly. So now I'm thinking how do we
> get large numbers of other sub-groups as interested in adding to the map as
> the pokemon people? Is this a one off random thing? Or is it possible to
> influence and steer large focused groups towards OSM? And at the same time
> provide enough guidance so these new groups are adding useful features to
> the map with a minimal amount of mistakes and fake features.
> Brian
> On 1/30/2017 7:09 PM, Will Senechal wrote:
> I do in fact know one of the areas that he edited quite well.  He added
> "Mission Koi Pond" at a location that contained a large building (shown on
> the Bing imagery) that I can confirm was still there yesterday.  It is the
> site of Mission Neurology, at 890 Hendersonville Rd #200, Asheville, NC
> 28803, see http://www.mission-health.org/the-nervous-system.php#locations.
> I would guess the edits are this person's home and work addresses, again to
> try to cheat at Pokemon Go.
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 27/01/2017 22:49, ajt1047 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 27/01/2017 06:20, Will Senechal wrote:
>>>>   I'll try to keep an eye on activity around here, and will try to
>>>> continue updating my area.
>>> They've just "edited" again, and I've blocked in
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1169 , so I'd be grateful if
>>> people could keep an eye out for other problematical edits in the area from
>>> other names too...
>> The Data Working Group have just had a mail from the mapper saying that
>> although the _previous_ ones were fake, their _last_ edit
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45573753 was actually valid (and
>> said "If there needs to be photographs taken I will gladly"). I replied
>> suggesting that they might want to post here to explain what happened, and
>> accepted their offer of photgraphic evidence.  I have to say I'm still
>> somewhat sceptical - the features in http://www.openstreetmap.org/c
>> hangeset/45573753 were remarkably Pokemon-friendly, and the "cars parked
>> in something now mapped as a duck pond" made it seem even more unlikely.
>> I'd be delighted to be wrong of course - it'd be great if this really was
>> someone trying to map real things (but perhaps not making a very good job
>> of it as this is their first non-fake edit).  If anyone's in a position to
>> check the validity or otherwise of it please do (you can visualise the
>> change in https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=45573753 - some
>> things should be easy to spot like the stream
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/469546360/history "Glen Meadows
>> Subterrain Spring").
>> Best Regards,
>> Andy
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