[Talk-us] Forest Routes

Jack Burke burkejf3 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 29 19:48:24 UTC 2018

Oh I am so happy that Frederik brought this up.  I've been thinking
about this topic for a while, but just haven't said anything.  I love
the ensuing discussion, too.

So, first, the wiki page on now to tag the refs
says to use NFR and NFH, as Kevin Kenny does.  I use neither.  As
others are doing, I use FS for Forest Service.  I'll note that on the
wiki page's Discussion tab, there are several people who question the
use of NFR/NFH, which seems to have been arbitrarily selected by one
person and added to the wiki without any real discussion about it.

Just to pick nits, Martijn, I'd like to point out that the example
sign for forest road 858 on that page you linked to has "National
Forest" on it, not FS or Forest Service.  If we were to go purely by
the sign, we should be using NF.  The National Forest Service
website's Interactive Visitor's Map at https://www.fs.fed.us/ivm/ uses
exactly that in an underlay layer for those maps.

That said, I still prefer FS because that's generally how most people
seem to refer to them (forest service).

Side note:  there are several forest service roads in north Georgia
that are represented on Mapillary and OpenStreetCam, if anyone wants
to "drive" one of them from the comfort of your living room.  (More
are apparent on Mapillary than OSC because of the different ways those
two services process sequences that don't have a matching OSM road.)


On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 4:03 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:51 PM Eric H. Christensen <eric at aehe.us> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:49 AM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
>> > I think you are right. It would be good if we can arrive at a common
>> > prefix and document it on the wiki. 'FS' makes sense. Perhaps even a new
>> > page dedicated to roads that are maintained directly by federal agencies
>> > (NPS, USDA, others?) would make sense. I'd be happy to help set it up.
>> I've noticed that some of these "roads" are showing FS, FT, and another F something when they were imported.  Should all these ways use 'FS' or should they use the different prefix based upon what type of way they are (outside of the proper tagging for the way)?
> Note that the Forest Service uses the same numbering scheme for trails, with 2 digit Forest Service routes being the main routes (be it a hiking trail or a road), 3 digit and 4 digit routes being of lesser importance in the overall network and usually being referred to as National Forest Development or NFD trails/roads.
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