[Talk-us] Naming numbered roads as "State Route X", "Interstate X", etc.

Nathan Mills nathan at nwacg.net
Sun Sep 2 20:16:43 UTC 2018


The New Sapulpa Road situation is in practice a road with a secondary name. Just like Flagler Street in part of Miami (FL, not OK) is defined by the state legislature as being "Natan A Rok Boulevard" (or similar, working from memory here).

My personal opinion is that if local practice and the USPS continue to use the old name, that name should stay in the name tag, while the Legislature's political name should be tagged as an alt_name. That said, there are situations in which most/all signage refers to the new name, in which case switching them makes sense. (Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard in Fayetteville, AR being an example. Most still call it 6th Street, but the city, nearly all signage, and the USPS' preferred name are all "Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard," and they are going to keep it up until everyone gets with the program)

Sometimes, the name really is "Highway 66" or "Route 22." Admittedly, it can sometimes be hard to tell for sure without local knowledge. As long as people do their best and aren't dogmatic about it when someone who knows better comes along in the future it will all work out in the end. 

-Nathan

On September 1, 2018 5:28:11 PM EDT, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:01 PM Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us> wrote:
>
>To cite a specific example of how we might map something, consider the
>town
>> of Waldport, Oregon.
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.42718/-124.06667
>>
>> As you can see, there is a US Route 101 running north-south through
>town.
>> Roads north of Northwest Hemlock Street include Northwest as part of
>their
>> names and roads south of Northwest Hemlock Street include Southwest
>as part
>> of their name.  US Route 101 is currently mapped in OSM with
>> "name=Northwest Highway 101" for the portions north of Northwest
>Hemlock
>> Street and "name="Southwest Highway 101" for the portions south of
>> Northwest Hemlock Street.  If we drop the name tag from this road in
>OSM,
>> then we lose the Northwest and Southwest directional prefix.  I think
>we
>> should retain the name tags on roads like this.
>>
>
>I don't.  While it is uncommon, there's other ways of handling this. 
>The
>way should still be noname=yes in this case.
>
>
>> Here is an examples of a POI along this route:
>>
>> https://www.grand-central-pizza.com/
>> Grand Central Pizza
>> 245 SW Hwy 101
>> Waldport, OR 97394
>>
>> USPS standard format of the address:
>> 245 SW HIGHWAY 101
>> WALDPORT, OR 97394-3036
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/463377211
>> addr:housenumber=245
>> addr:street=Southwest Highway 101
>> addr:city=Waldport
>> addr:state=OR
>> addr:postcode=97394
>>
>
>And this is how you would handle addresses along such a highway.  This
>also
>comes up (uncommon but still happens) where the USPS has decided to
>consider addresses with a different name than the street that frontages
>it.  In an extreme example, there's a road in my region that has the
>name
>"Officer Larry W. Cantrell and Mister Charles L. Cantrell Memorial
>Highway".  The addresses along it are all "New Sapulpa Road", the
>road's
>old name, presumably due to brevity.

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