[Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

[Andy Townsend]

Thanks to everyone who replied - I've reverted the change in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/66672189 .

On 27/01/2019 01:50, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Do the latest NGS topographical maps show the city limits properly? 
> Those are public domain
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:16 AM OSM Volunteer stevea 
> <steveaOSM at softworkers.com <mailto:steveaOSM at softworkers.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Jan 26, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ajt1047 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off" north
>     of the 880 between San Jose airport and Stevens Creek Mall /
>     Westfield Valley Fair.  You can see the change at
>     http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=66619223&zoom=18&lat=37.33883&lon=-121.93327&layers=B0TTTFT
>     .
>     >
>     > Some of this mapper's previous changes have had to be undone, so
>     I did check the node change made here to see if it might be one of
>     them.  However, according to the node history
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/373647840/history#map=13/37.3600/-121.9066
>     the original source of this node was a changeset quite a while ago
>     with a description "adjust boundaries based on san jose city map,
>     bing, and common sense ".  It therefore would be great if a local
>     could check it if possible.
>
>     I'm fairly local (SJC is my "home airport") yet I'm not finding
>     easily-available San José City Limit boundaries in an
>     ODbL-compatible format which I could use to relatively quickly
>     repair the damage.  (The user mk408 has a history of "making it up
>     as he sees fit" OSM data entry which many have disputed or
>     redacted, for example, many years ago he made MANY roads in the
>     entire South Bay region — Campbell, Los Gatos, Monte Sereno,
>     southern San José —into highway=tertiary roads, and that remained
>     very questionable until it slowly but surely "healed itself,"
>     again, this took months-to-years).  There are some geo data at
>     http://csj-landzoning.appspot.com/index.html which indicate the
>     present OSM data are "largely correct," the exception being that
>     the area directly over the northern part of the airport do not
>     include the "leg" that "covers" runway 12L/30R and that the acute
>     angle over taxiways V, W and W1 is more like "aligned with these
>     taxiways, rather than cutting across them."  You really have to
>     see them rather than expect that I can describe them with text. 
>     They are, again, "mostly correct" but could use some rather minor
>     correction.
>
>     As I bumped into somebody on a plane on my way back from SOTM-US
>     Seattle (2016) who works in the San José City Hall and when she
>     met me was bowled over at the coincidence that I was the very
>     person sitting next to her drinking gin and tonic who entered into
>     OSM most of Santa Clara County's bikeways/bicycle infrastructure
>     and network=lcn routing (which the city office found "extremely
>     helpful" — her words), it's conceivable that I might be able to
>     use that to sway release of some data which could be forthcoming. 
>     While I don't know quite who to call, exactly, if somebody wants
>     to "release to me" ODbL-compatible data which need to be
>     harmonized with what are now in OSM, I'll volunteer to be the
>     "nexus of citizen entry" to assure they find their way into our
>     wonderful map.  Send me a pointer to the data, assure me they are
>     ODbL-OK and I'll "merge" these into OSM.
>
>     SteveA
>     California
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