[Talk-us] Road name update challenges

Clifford Snow clifford at snowandsnow.us
Fri Mar 1 17:49:46 UTC 2019


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:09 AM Aaron Forsythe <idnwys at gmail.com> wrote:

> These are all just my opinions, so don't take as fact.  I could be wrong.
>
>
>
> >> We were able to get a local GIS to release data to OSM.  In analyzing
>
> the data, I notice that address tags are much more carefully updated
>
> than road names.   So I could create a local project to correct some
>
> local roads based on corrections from the address data.   I hesitate
>
> because then those changes will be reverted when they don't match TIGER.
>

Having someone "fix" your edits using bad data is a problem. Two examples
come to mind, the first is when someone uses older imagery to align a road.
I've even done that to one of my own edits. The second is when a street
name is added from local knowledge that is different from TIGER. In both
cases, unless the editor is paying attention to the tags, they will likely
just change your edit. What I recommend is to watch edits in your area. I
recommend Simons's Who Did it.
https://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/ Use the RSS feed to watch
edits in your area.

>
>
> Usually, at least around here, addresses have the correct street names.
> Street signs are sometimes wrong, especially if it will save a few
> dollars.  Quite common for older street signs to leave out spaces in the
> name, leave off the Dr/St/Ave, or leave off East/West/North/South just to
> save money with a shorter sign.
>

One caution - when doing a building/address import a few years ago, we
discovered errors in the counties address database. They had different
street names from address street names. The street names matched the street
signs but the addresses had a different street name. These were reported to
the county


> It seems the whole issue stems from an automatic edit without proper
> integration.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
>

I think it's bigger than just automatic edits. People are trying to improve
the map, but may be caught up by errors introduced from other systems.

FYI - here is my authority list, from best to worst. in numerical order.
1. Local, on the ground knowledge
2. City records
3. County records
4. State records.
99. TIGER

Best,
Clifford


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