[Talk-us] [Imports] [Talk-us-newyork] Draft proposal for import of New York State GIS SAM Address Points

[Brian May]

On 1/9/2021 6:02 PM, stevea wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:24 PM Brian May <bmay at mapwise.com> wrote:
>>> We really need some pages on the wiki that explain the basics of Public
>>> Records laws state by state.
> I agree and support this notion, however, I'm (currently) burnt out on wiki-writing (this will eventually pass, I'm sure), especially as I ponder starting / participating in a new, large-ish, comprehensive project like "Public Records Laws, state by state" (and that I continue to work on our United States/Public Lands wiki and other efforts like USA Rail and USBRS).
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> I can start by "seeding" the fact that California GIS data published by the state (or equivalents, like its counties) are fully available in the public domain for free with no license, and hence OSM under our ODbL.  There were a couple of California State Supreme Court rulings that definitively established this, the major one being "Sierra Club v. County of Orange."  I agree it is a patchwork in the other 49 states and that to track this would help guide effective addition of public data to OSM (where it makes sense to do so, for example with municipal / city limit boundaries where these are currently missing).  There are also present efforts to help boost "protected area" data in OSM in the USA.  These are somewhat new and emerging, but look to be excellent data and methodologies.  Of course, such efforts must follow our Import Guidelines should they become distinct projects to implement a real importation of such data.
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> We can also take heart that all data published at the federal level by the US government (unless they are "classified," as in military secrets) are also public domain, so, also open to OSM under our ODbL.
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> It shouldn't be too much effort to grow what the status is in any given state in a simple wiki, perhaps with an easy table, which captures this knowledge.  Thank you in advance to anybody willing and able to take this on and grow it to all 50 states.
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> If crossposting this to both imports-us and talk-us is not appropriate, please accept my apologies and correct my behavior.
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> SteveA
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Thanks for info about California. I wonder if the map on this US 
Department of Transportation page may be a starting point. This is a 
status page / maps of the US DOT effort to collect, standardize and 
publish address data that it acquires from states: 
https://www.transportation.gov/gis/national-address-database/national-address-database-0

What is interesting is that in order for US Department of Transportation 
to use address data from states, the data must be in public domain, 
right? New York is submitted and good to go. As are many other states. 
It clearly shows states where the data is not in public domain. However, 
more research needed, because as we know the data not considered public 
domain could still be under licensing that is OSM compatible, but US 
government requires public domain.

Brian