[Talk-us] [Imports] [Talk-us-newyork] Draft proposal for import of New York State GIS SAM Address Points

[Lukas Richert]

I was thinking of a similar project in Arizona -  most of the metro 
Phoenix cities have Open Data and there is already a wiki page 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Arizona_Open_Data

On 10/01/2021 04:36, Brian May wrote:
> On 1/9/2021 6:02 PM, stevea wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:24 PM Brian May <bmay at mapwise.com> wrote:
>>>> We really need some pages on the wiki that explain the basics of 
>>>> Public
>>>> Records laws state by state.
>> I agree and support this notion, however, I'm (currently) burnt out 
>> on wiki-writing (this will eventually pass, I'm sure), especially as 
>> I ponder starting / participating in a new, large-ish, comprehensive 
>> project like "Public Records Laws, state by state" (and that I 
>> continue to work on our United States/Public Lands wiki and other 
>> efforts like USA Rail and USBRS).
>>
>> I can start by "seeding" the fact that California GIS data published 
>> by the state (or equivalents, like its counties) are fully available 
>> in the public domain for free with no license, and hence OSM under 
>> our ODbL.  There were a couple of California State Supreme Court 
>> rulings that definitively established this, the major one being 
>> "Sierra Club v. County of Orange."  I agree it is a patchwork in the 
>> other 49 states and that to track this would help guide effective 
>> addition of public data to OSM (where it makes sense to do so, for 
>> example with municipal / city limit boundaries where these are 
>> currently missing).  There are also present efforts to help boost 
>> "protected area" data in OSM in the USA.  These are somewhat new and 
>> emerging, but look to be excellent data and methodologies.  Of 
>> course, such efforts must follow our Import Guidelines should they 
>> become distinct projects to implement a real importation of such data.
>>
>> We can also take heart that all data published at the federal level 
>> by the US government (unless they are "classified," as in military 
>> secrets) are also public domain, so, also open to OSM under our ODbL.
>>
>> It shouldn't be too much effort to grow what the status is in any 
>> given state in a simple wiki, perhaps with an easy table, which 
>> captures this knowledge.  Thank you in advance to anybody willing and 
>> able to take this on and grow it to all 50 states.
>>
>> If crossposting this to both imports-us and talk-us is not 
>> appropriate, please accept my apologies and correct my behavior.
>>
>> SteveA
>>
> Thanks for info about California. I wonder if the map on this US 
> Department of Transportation page may be a starting point. This is a 
> status page / maps of the US DOT effort to collect, standardize and 
> publish address data that it acquires from states: 
> https://www.transportation.gov/gis/national-address-database/national-address-database-0
>
> What is interesting is that in order for US Department of 
> Transportation to use address data from states, the data must be in 
> public domain, right? New York is submitted and good to go. As are 
> many other states. It clearly shows states where the data is not in 
> public domain. However, more research needed, because as we know the 
> data not considered public domain could still be under licensing that 
> is OSM compatible, but US government requires public domain.
>
> Brian
>
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