[Talk-us] Change sets covering entire US?

Mike Thompson miketho16 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 15:14:30 UTC 2021


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:36 AM Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't have a problem with the large size of the bounding box, as it is
> clear from the changeset description what the change is, and it is
> topically consistent (i.e. - it's not a changeset with a park in New York,
> an ice cream shop in Albuquerque, and a river in St. Louis!).
>
I do have a problem with the large changeset bounding box, although without
the large bbox this changeset - that is problematic for additional reasons
- wouldn't have come to our attention.

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> I *DO* have a problem with the change itself, as name:en is redundant when
> the name is already in English.  The data consumers that I'm familiar with
> (namely, OpenMapTiles, and my own service) that are tasked with extracting
> names in English are perfectly capable of looking for name:en first, and
> then falling back to name if name:en is not present.  So IMO, this is tag
> bloat.  I have added a changeset comment requesting an explanation for the
> change and will link to this discussion.
>
Agree, like most mechanical edits, this adds little value.   Generally, if
it was easy for the person making the mechanical edit to do, it would be
easy for the data user consumer to do.  Also since it wasn't discussed on
one of the official mailing lists and documented on the wiki, it violates
our policies and norms.  Finally, there is a risk with mechanical edits to
do great harm as a small error can be systematically spread over many
objects.  I am not sure that happened here, but the burden should not be on
the community to assess that after the fact, rather the burden should be on
the person proposing the mechanical edit to convince the community ahead of
time that this is unlikely (by documenting their process and tools), and
that the benefits outweigh the risks.

Mike

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