[Talk-us] Name tag on unnamed, but numbered routes

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Fri Nov 19 22:22:37 UTC 2021


On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:08 PM Zeke Farwell <ezekielf at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:49 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Zeke Farwell <ezekielf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:52 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure noname=yes with official_name=* set is automatically a
>>>> tagging error...that would be the *de facto* name.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is why a name like "Route XX" is perfectly valid when that's what
>>> people call it and how it's signed.  Two examples near me:
>>>
>>> *Vermont Route 15*
>>>
>>>    - Name:  Vermont Route 15
>>>    - Alt Names:  Route 15, VT Route 15
>>>    - Short Name: VT-15
>>>    - Official/Memorial Name: Grand Army of the Republic Highway
>>>    - Route Number: 15
>>>
>>> No one calls it Grand Army of the Republic Highway and signs with that
>>> name appear only rarely.  Addresses never use that name.  The de facto name
>>> where there is no local street name is Vermont Route 15.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Interstate 89*
>>>
>>>    - Name: Interstate 89
>>>    - Short Name: I-89
>>>    - Official/Memorial Name: Vietnam Veterans Memorial Highway
>>>    - Route Number: 89
>>>
>>> No one calls it Vietnam Veterans Memorial Highway and if there are any
>>> signs with that name I've never seen them (I've looked).  The de facto name
>>> is Interstate 89.
>>>
>>
>> In both of these cases, the official name should be the name tag, and not
>> duplicating the ref tag or route relation.
>>
>
> The common names are Vermont Route 15 and Interstate 89, so that's what
> makes most sense to have in the name tag.  Official names that barely exist
> in the real world belong in official_name or some other alternative name
> tag.
>

By that same rationale then we should just strip the Golden State Freeway
name off I 5 and set it to name="The 5"
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