[Talk-us] Delete "Contiguous United States"?

Brian M. Sperlongano zelonewolf at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 14:22:18 UTC 2022


The object in question is composed as a boundary containing the entire
perimeter of the lower 48 states, that's why it's an 800+ member relation.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 8:58 AM Eric Patrick <txemt1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Contiguous United States is only 48 states, not 800+.
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 04:05 Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> today I happened upon a relation called "Contiguous United States"
>> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9331155) and tagged as an
>> administrative boundary.
>>
>> I would recommend to delete this relation because:
>>
>> 1. There is no administrative entity called "Contiguous United States".
>> The "Contiguous United States" has no legal persona and no government.
>> It cannot therefore be an "administrative boundary".
>>
>> 2. As far as I know, the "Contiguous United States" is simply a group of
>> states. As such, it does not have its own boundary. If, say, the
>> maritime boundary of Florida were to change, then the "Contiguous United
>> States" boundary would also change. Hence, if it *were* modeled in OSM,
>> it should be modeled as group of states and not as an individual
>> geometric form.
>>
>> 3. Like any of these giant multipolygon and boundary relations, it
>> complicates editing - anyone splitting, say, a way on the US-Canadian
>> border will not only have to upload new relation versions for the US,
>> Canada, and the states/provinces involved, but also a new version of the
>> 800+ member "Contiguous United States". That's why this relation is
>> meanwhile at version 270 without a lot having *actually* changed.
>>
>> If it were my home turf I'd just go ahead and delete it but since it's
>> not, I'll limit my actions to this post and leave any further actions or
>> inactions to you.
>>
>> Bye
>> Frederik
>>
>> --
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