[Talk-us] Delete "Contiguous United States"?

[Zeke Farwell]

👍 Deleting seem appropriate to me.  Doesn't seem any more valuable than
the Interstate highways mega relation we deleted a while ago because
relations aren't categories.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories


On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 9:27 AM Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The object in question is composed as a boundary containing the entire
> perimeter of the lower 48 states, that's why it's an 800+ member relation.
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 8:58 AM Eric Patrick <txemt1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Contiguous United States is only 48 states, not 800+.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 04:05 Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> today I happened upon a relation called "Contiguous United States"
>>> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9331155) and tagged as an
>>> administrative boundary.
>>>
>>> I would recommend to delete this relation because:
>>>
>>> 1. There is no administrative entity called "Contiguous United States".
>>> The "Contiguous United States" has no legal persona and no government.
>>> It cannot therefore be an "administrative boundary".
>>>
>>> 2. As far as I know, the "Contiguous United States" is simply a group of
>>> states. As such, it does not have its own boundary. If, say, the
>>> maritime boundary of Florida were to change, then the "Contiguous United
>>> States" boundary would also change. Hence, if it *were* modeled in OSM,
>>> it should be modeled as group of states and not as an individual
>>> geometric form.
>>>
>>> 3. Like any of these giant multipolygon and boundary relations, it
>>> complicates editing - anyone splitting, say, a way on the US-Canadian
>>> border will not only have to upload new relation versions for the US,
>>> Canada, and the states/provinces involved, but also a new version of the
>>> 800+ member "Contiguous United States". That's why this relation is
>>> meanwhile at version 270 without a lot having *actually* changed.
>>>
>>> If it were my home turf I'd just go ahead and delete it but since it's
>>> not, I'll limit my actions to this post and leave any further actions or
>>> inactions to you.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>> Frederik
>>>
>>> --
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