[Talk-us] OpenStreetMap US update

[Nick Santos]

In addition to what Andrew posted, there is also some discussion on the OSM
community forum in this thread:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/issues-with-government-trail-data/105255

I'm not involved, but have tracked some of the work and observed the group
leading it to be expert in both trails and OSM as well as open and friendly
- I suggest anyone with concerns approach them with an open mind to learn
more about what they're doing and why.

-Nick
http://nicksantos.com


On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 1:40 PM Andrew Wiseman <awiseman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not part of this effort but I am guessing it's related to how to
> handle unofficial, informal or trails, like previous discussions here have
> talked about.
>
> The article links to this page https://openstreetmap.us/our-work/trails/
> which has lots of info, and that links to this OSM Wiki page that talks
> about tagging standards and more
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Trail_Access_Project
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:13 AM Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
>
>> Nellie Blair <nellie at openstreetmap.us> writes:
>>
>> > 1) With the support of volunteers and land managers, the OpenStreetMap
>> US
>> > Trails Stewardship Initiative is launching our first statewide campaign
>> > aiming to update trail information on 60,000+ miles of trails in
>> > OpenStreetMap across Utah public lands. Learn more in our latest blog
>> post:
>> > https://openstreetmap.us/news/2023/10/trails-utah-campaign/
>>
>> Reading this, it smells like "a group of land managers is going to
>> remove data from OSM that they don't like even if it is accurate".  Can
>> you point to someplace public that talks more about this "initiative",
>> who the members are, and why we should be confident that the actions
>> taken are in line with OSM community norms?
>>
>> I second Mike's concerns in general, and find the phrasing "official and
>> approved sources" concerning.  This is effectively an import, and it
>> appears not to be doing the quality control required to validate that
>> this "official" data is accurate enough.
>>
>> Also, it looks like people that don't accept Slack's terms are excluded
>> from participaing or finding out what is going on.
>>
>> Greg (mapper since 2009, often mapping trails)
>>
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