[Openstreetmap] applet 'usability' suggestions
tom at tom-carden.co.uk
Mon Jun 6 12:22:19 BST 2005
Jo Walsh wrote:
>I finally cracked and installed a JRE
Great. You'll never look back! (Until we get an SVG editor... or
off-topic - You've opened yourself up to a whole world of fun, see
www.tom-carden.co.uk/p5 for a pile of java applet distractions :)
> and then spent a few hours
> transfixed by the OSM applet. It's great. I have a short list of
> niggling speculation.
Don't we all!
Might I suggest -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/newwiki/index.php/Status if you think it should
be done real-soon-now.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/newwiki/index.php/Ideas if you think people
should be aware of it, but it's not essential
Show-stopping bugs are probably still best here though (or bugzilla, if it's
> - Both the applet the website want me to re-authenticate about every
> 10 minutes. This is frustrating.
Agreed. In the meantime you'll have to work faster ;)
> I appreciate that i may have to log
> into both separately.
I'm not sure that's the case. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a way to get
the applet to use the same log-in credentials as the browser.
> But if i upload a track, then edit the map,
> then go back to upload another track, i'm asked to log in again.
> Is there a real need to have the timeout so high?
I wouldn't have thought so.
> - each time i'd upload a new track, then i'd have to start again at
> the default view on the map and pan around to where i was working
> (not wanting to pan with the applet which is slower)
> it would rock if both/either could save state on where you were last
> it would also rock if at least a link to 'edit the map over the
> tracks you just made' appeared post the GPX upload
Definitely. I think this is on the todo list. I'm not sure how the GPX
parsing is currently handled, but I'd like to see this happen fairly soon.
If I do it, I'll tie it in with an RSS feed of GPX uploads, because I like
to know what's going on without looking at database logs :)
Is there any reason why centring on the average point would be a bad idea?
(Once we work out a neater way to handle scale, I'm sure we could generate a
bounding box and fit that inside the projection, but that's hardly
To be honest, given that we have logins, I'd like each person to have a
homepage which links to their contributions - GPX, and traced annotations,
and discussions. There's no reason why this shouldn't be optional (hardcore
wiki-style) but I think an easy way into what I was working on recently is
> - the 'delete segment' button actually seemed to create a segment, at
> least it didn't delete anything. i found i could delete nodes and
> that would delete all the segments attached to them. They don't
> show up in the editor or in the data that i get from the XMLRPC edge.
> but i still see them on the 'view map' at OSM?
I was confused by this too.
> - i reckon even a low-quality satellite basemap would be useful in the
> editor, just for context / reference. i found myself occasionally
> dumping and reloading tracks into mapserver w/ landsat to be able to get
> sense of where i was on the basemap.
I think image hosting/tracing (old maps, aerial photos, landsat etc) is
pretty high on the agenda. Not sure if there's a firm date for the next
coding day yet, but I was hoping to have a crack at it then...
> that central line on the river
> is distracting, is it better to have a shape there?
Shapes for bodies of water sounds sensible - how accurate are the free
sources of this kind of info?
Not sure about shapes for other things yet though.
> - i'd like to send editorial questions like that to a forum, like a
> wiki meta discussion keyed to a bounding box, or an ad-hoc mailing
> list of everyone who's registered their focus on a point inside a
> bounding box.
Sorry, losing track a bit here. Editorial questions? You mean questions
like the ones you've been answering for yourself with low-quality satellite
basemaps? Sounds sensible.
> for the Mumbai Free Map we are looking at a simple hack using
> OpenGuides to add a wiki page for each feature and i suppose a little
> RDF index to tell mapserver what's annotated. i have heard only the
> vaguest things about geoannotation in MediaWiki; no 'solution' yet?
I was about to ask if you knew of any good spatially indexed wikis. If you
don't, I suggest we chalk it up as yet-another-blue-sky feature. I don't
think a location-based discussion forum is small feature :)
Another plea to add your feature requests to the wiki (or bugzilla, if it's
It's easier than searching the list archives. (Or put a big TODO in the
subject, that way search might work...)
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