[Openstreetmap] Re: Re: OSM License and debian

[Jo Walsh]

On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 07:05:30AM -0400, Chris Holmes wrote:
> and brought up map/mapping data.  He said that CC doesn't believe data can
> be copyrighted, but they have ideas on ways to get around that (and I
> think maps are an interesting issue, as you could copyright the derived
> map, but not the data...).  He also said that CC would be happy to help us
> work on licenses, and gave me his card.  So I think a customized CC
> license could be quite possible.  If people have some specific questions
> for him I may have a chance to talk to him further.

i think we talked about Giles' effort to devise an open data license
that the OS could consider as a model. 
http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/geo-discuss/2005-April/000012.html
http://www.okfn.org/geo/geodata_cc_license_draft.rtf

This had some consultation from the CC people at Oxford. So there is a
template for this, which could be adapted as an alternative to plain
old CC; but it does ignore the murky issues surroundign database
copyright and derived works, which are particularly poignant to map
data. I heard suggestions a clickwrap license scheme might be more
appropriate; but i don't really understand the implications of what's
on the other end ofthe click (can it just be CC/SA?)
http://www.cptech.org/ecom/ucita/licenses/

I don't wish to muddy this issue further. I think it's important that
a license be familiar to people; CC gains value for me here because
there are other efforts in the UK to open publically funded
information using a topic-modified CC license -
http://creativearchive.bbc.co.uk

the INSPIRE proposed directive goes into first reading in the European
Parliament on 6th June. It currently contains a clause that allows the
European Commission to establish, at any time, a common licensing and
pricing policy for many sets of European spatial data, with no further
recourse to represenative bodies, only needing the consent of its
advisory group composed of representatives of national mapping
agencies. http://inspire.jrc.it/ , 
http://www2.europarl.eu.int/oeil/FindByProcnum.do?lang=2&procnum=COD/2004/0175
INSPIRE doesn't cover streetlevel data, though it's hard to imagine a
functional NSDI without it. 

Please consider writing a short note on the subject of the social and
economic value of open geodata, to your Euro MP.


-jo