[Openstreetmap] Borough boundary

[Andy Robinson]

Presumably historically all boundaries were written down in some manner.
Then at some point someone had the bright idea of placing those boundaries
onto Mr Cartographers map. It's not the boundaries themselves that are the
problem but the fact that someone has visualised them on someone else's map.
I am sure Wandsworth Council will provide you with a map of their boundary
but you can bet it's simply an overlay onto an OS map.

Andy Robinson
Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk 

-----Original Message-----
From: openstreetmap-bounces at vr.ucl.ac.uk
[mailto:openstreetmap-bounces at vr.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mike Ryan
Sent: 03 October 2005 13:54
To: openstreetmap at vr.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Openstreetmap] Borough boundary

Steve

sorry to bang on about this, but this still doesn't seem right to me. 
How can I
derive public information? I understand the point that you make about me
copying a map (so, I'll take the page down later). However, surely the
boundaries of my local borough are public information? It's a statement of
fact. If anyone owns that information, it should be Wandsworth Council or
the
boundaries commission not some map-maker who has published it on his map.

See, my naiveity comes shining though again! 8-)

Cheers

Mike


>> SteveC wrote:
>>> Thats *so* a derived work and subject to copyright :-(
>>>
>>> * @ 25/09/05 08:50:42 PM mike.ryan at redmar.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm new to this list so please forgive me for any newbie errors!
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, reason for the post is that I've been playing around with 
>>>> Google maps a
>>>> lot, originally with plotting points, then plotting lines. So, I 
>>>> decided to try
>>>> and do something a bit larger and more difficult & decided to plot out
the
>>>> boundaries of my borough using publicly available borough boundary 
>>>> information.
>>>> I used this web page ( 
>>>> http://mapki.com/index.php?title=Get_Lon_Lat )to report
>>>> lat/longs for each point I needed, which I then built up into a
complete
>>>> borough boundary for Wandsworth:
>>>> http://217.155.146.189/wandsworth/
>>>>
>>>> So, I guess the big question is, is this legal and is it of any 
>>>> use. I saw a
>>>> previous discussion about derived works which made me wonder. I 
>>>> used google
>>>> maps to report individual lat/long points as I mention, as I don't 
>>>> have time to
>>>> go round in a car to collect them (plus a lot of places would be
>>>> difficult/dangerous to reach. Details on the points can be viewed 
>>>> using View ->
>>>> Source.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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>>>
>>> have fun,
>>>
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