[OSM-talk] Summary of the irc meeting.

Etienne Cherdlu openstreetmap-L at gj0.net
Thu Apr 6 13:10:48 BST 2006

Requiring monetary payment to be a member is a really bad idea. 
People who *take* (use the data or get a benefit from the data) may be
willing to donate, but people who freely *give* their time and energy
should not also be required to give money.  We need these people.

I for one would rather give my time elsewhere than have to pay for
that privelege.  OK, you could argue that I can give without being a
member but I wouldn't feel good about that.


On 4/6/06, Tom Carden <tom at tom-carden.co.uk> wrote:
> On 4/6/06, Immanuel Scholz <immanuel.scholz at gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > Nice compare, but unfortunatly its flawed.
> >
> > You cannot be twice in the millitary, since you exist only once. You can
> > have two accounts on OSM or registrations at the ML :-(
> >
> Yes, and I can pay to be a member twice, etc. etc.
> How do you prove that two people aren't the same online... IP address?
> (I have access to 5 or 6 easily, around 100 without too much trouble)
> Email address? (same as IP), make them report to a chat on IRC? (one
> per IP is easy), etc. etc.
> You have the right idea to make someone prove that they are someone
> who has *done* something, but unfortunately these things are almost as
> trivial to work around.
> The only hope is to unify all the OSM user databases and insist on
> biometric ID ;)
> > And the other thing is, that OSMF need some income. Hopefully not much,
> > but some money is necessary to keep the tracks logging. So some of us came
> > to a conclusion, that this could be combined. (But as I said, the decision
> > was postponed ;)
> I think this project has too much international/worldwide potential
> for us to risk setting a financial barrier to entry.  Perhaps then an
> "assisted membership" scheme for folks who can't afford or aren't able
> to pay.  (I know we're only talking about membership of OSMF, and not
> membership to use the site or data, but I still think it's important).
> >
> > > PPS I'd like to be a member please ;)
> >
> > GAY!
> >
> > (just kidding ;----)
> >
> Quite.  I'll pretend you didn't do that.
> T.
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